BOF fixture list

[lincolnsteve]

AWK - You are quite right in your reply and I agree with all you have said. In my defence I will point out that your question was on the wording we should be using, I am just pointing out we should be wording it as a discount (If a club wishes to offer one) going on everything from BOF (Yes my example from fixtures page wasn't the best). I always used to see fee's for non BOF members worded as a suppliment, we have just swapped things around and things havent really changed other than the wording. If however you are sugesting that clubs are in fact increasing BOF members fee's and increasing non BOF members fee's even further then I guess thats a discussion in its own right.

The fixtures list is confusing at the moment but I put this down to all the confusion surrounding the whole affair anyway and clubs who regestered their events last year before it was settled are being caught out by it all (like our event, hence the notice on our website) I'm sure as the year progresses the fixtures list will become clearer as clubs update their registrations.

[PMG]

Hi Folks

Not sure which British Orienteering fixture list you are looking at.
The only official one is:
http://www.britishorienteering.org.uk/f ... xtures.htm

This has all the fixtures in it that people above suggested are missing.

Then only reason any fixture is not on this list is that either:
a. Clubs don't want National publicity
b. Clubs register their fixtures on the wrong form
c. It hasn't been registered!
d. Events are not registered until the very last minute

AWK: The fixture list is not in dissaray and it is insulting to all the volunteer effort that goes into it to suggest so.

Peter Guillaume
Fixtures Chairman

[Snail]

This has all the fixtures in it that people above suggested are missing.

Sorry, but I disagree - it is exactly that list I was suggesting is inaccurate.

The latest version still shows events for 1st Jan - but doesn't include the BKO event at Greenham Common on that day. I am fairly sure it never showed the BAOC event at Aldershot on 30 December.

And the JK details still don't give any indication of how to enter or even link to the website.

Those are just the ones I happen to know about because they have been discussed on here - there may be others.

I was trying to ask why this might be happening - and whether there is anything that can be done to encourage clubs to register events properly.

[Adventure Racer]

Personally I'd suggest the reality is somewhere between the two views posted above. I certainly wouldn't say the official fixture list is in disarray (it's certainly where I still go first, and also the data used for the UK Orienteering Fixtures Map for instance). However it could be better - the absence of certain recent events is notable - I nearly missed the BAOC Aldershot event because it wasn't listed (thanks to Tatty for mentioning it on here).

It also obviously doesn't list many local events - for instance MADO events aren't listed, which I presume is a deliberate policy - which results in lots of chasing round individual websites to find info.

Not sure what the answer to this is - generally things seem to work, just that some slip through the gaps, though always worth reminding people that it could be better. Meanwhile how about a separate "local events" list (maybe organised into regions) for those events people don't want listed on the national list?

[awk]

AWK: The fixture list is not in dissaray and it is insulting to all the volunteer effort that goes into it to suggest so.

I'm sorry that you take it that way Peter, no insult was intended, but in relation to event fees, it is in some disarray, in exactly the way I described in my previous post. I'm sure all the volunteers are doing their best in the circumstances, but the introduction of multiple tier fees (for National members, Local members, non-members) alongside all the others (e.g. students, juniors), combined with what I still understand (but maybe wrong) as miswording in the heading, inevitably leads to this.

I regarded the disarray as a reflection on the scheme rather than on the volunteers administering the list, (which remains perhaps the single most valuable feature of the BOF website).

[RichT]

The fixtures list on the BOF site will only ever be as good as the data supplied to regional fixtures secs & passed along to the national sec. A large proportion of local events will only want local publicity and will therefore be missing from the list, but that is their choice.

I too was suprised that the entry for the JK was missing the JK website reference, but the way the system works it is up to the event organiser to amend the information they want displayed.

As for entry fees in the list and the debate about "discounts" I guess there may be some cases where fees haven't been amended within the list, but again that is something for the event organiser to check and correct where necessary. I'm sure the data quality will improve the futher we move into the year and become familiar with the workings of the new fee structure .

Rich
NW Fixtures

[Mr timE]

Just to clarify situation on BAOC Around Aldershot MTBO & Long O. Location change & getting permissions meant flyers did not go out until YBT Final on 10 Dec, we nearly cancelled at one stage and so we could not register in time for lists. Also operational deployments meant we were very short on helpers, as it was we had 130 without publicity.

Incidentally the £2 BOF member discount was genuine here as it had been £10 for previous events.

For the summer running we are considering using Bordon, Woolmer & Longmoor linked, not an Around Aldershot obviously but will allow us to take a lot more competitors. How about 23 June when JIRC is on in Yorkshire? Then back to Aldershot for Sat 29 Dec 07 in the stadium again, perhaps even a Mexican wave as GG spints in this time. I had wanted to send them around the tartan track for a lap at the finish, just like in a marathon, but it was not to be, perhaps next time!

[Adventure Racer]

I was wondering why we didn't do a lap to finish, but I guess it would only make sense if there was a chasing start on the long run after you finished the long bike

[liamcorner]

How about 23 June when JIRC is on in Yorkshire?

FYI - if you're planning an MTBO too that clashes with the MTBO national championship race at Cannock Chase. Could this be British MTBO's first fixure clash