Emit at the JK

[Steve]

But think of the possibilities with the v3 e-card, for example massed non-contact punching (excuse the oxymoron!) at the first control on the relays, non-punching e-line finish. I hope the JK organisers are going to exploit the benefits of the system.

[seabird]

I didn't see it until I had got through to the internet entry form - which I promptly stopped filling in and started sending an e-mail to Santa to ask him to put some e-cards on the present list

I guess coming from the equatorial desert midway between the EMIT poles, with only 3 EMIT race experiences in 10 years, I'd be better leaving Santa's elves to more worthwhile employment.

[tim sleepless]

It's the same things that come up time and time again - and mainly boils down to people don't like using EMIT because they're [b]unfamiliar

Of course all this debate would be solved if someone came up with a system which incorporated the best of both worlds

RFID chip surgical implants. Job done

[mharky]

Yep I was right pissed off a 3km run to the start and no spare brikkes....

Good point, I ran at a race in sweden, went for a forest dump on my warm up and left my SI card when i picked up my compass and description holder. fortunately they had lots of spares at the start... just incase.

[RS]

Ihate emit The latest version ones don't have a back-up card and if you pass too close to a control that's not yours, it registers so the numbers are all to hell. Now having second thoughts about enterng as it's expensive enough without added hire costs.

[mharky]

IThe latest version ones don't have a back-up card

No emit brick has a back-up card. But all versions have the pin-bed and clips on them, you have to get the back-up card from the organiser. For the JK they MUST them, probably get them with your entries and it'll have your start time on n stuff.

If an organiser doesn't provide back up cards and you mis-punch then they either have to re-instate you or void the whole course because they didn't give out the back-ups.

[qoute="RS"]f you pass too close to a control that's not yours, it registers so the numbers are all to hell[/qoute]

Do you mean, if you punch another control?

[PeteL]

A massive case of deja vu - I remember having long discussions with fellow LEI members 6-7 years ago about the merits of the two systems - I was weaned on SI and argued in favour of it long and hard. Then moved to GRAMP where we've used emit for most events for 3-4 yrs. As a planner I'm completely converted - so much easier to set up, especially for small events. As a competitor the latest version brikkes are superb - you only need to be a few inches from the base plate for it to register. All you need to do is look at the LED as you wave the brikke over it and then, if you want to double check, glance at the display as you run away from the control. I've done this at every event for the last year and the control has registered every time.

The problem of costly brikkes is a tricky one - I keep suggesting our club issues one to each regular orienteer, that way we could have a database with all personal info on it making entries much easier. Friends in Norway use this apporach but I guess they have the benefit of having a 'can do, keep it simple' approach and getting sponsors to pay for the brikkes...

[RS]

No you don't need to punch, just passing by pretty closely does it!

[distracted]

No you don't need to punch, just passing by pretty closely does it!

true with the contact free, still why do you need the emit screen to remind you which control you're going to? you don't have one with SI do you

and it seems to be a quid hire for the weekend, so not expensive at all...

[RS]

Was just going to post to say that the emit hire was cheap at £1 (I take it for all 3 days) but I'd love to know how the individual entries cost is worked out - £12.50 seems rather steep (and yes, I know BOC is £13 but Scottish 6 days is £10). If you are running the golden oldies classes you may as well run colour-code - longer courses and cheaper

[ryeland of doom]

If only we had one system.

After many events, still trying to get the hang of emit. Fiddly or what.
Dont trust the proximity punching.

Only used the things once south of the border - that was at the JK relay area. Will give it a miss again this year, a bit expensive, blow it on the 6 days instead.

[LostOldTimer]

There should be one standard electronic system for the Uk at least if not worldwide...
and it should be Sport Ident (SI)

I have decided not to go to some events because they are using Emit - I just hate it - and hadnt realised until now that the JK was using it... have to decide now whether to bother going. The Forest of Dean isn't that great an area anyway... and has been used for many large events over the last 5 years..... including a fairly recent JK.

SI Forever

[Red Adder]

Simple question - if the new proximity card
only has to b waggled in the near vicinity of the
control how do you ever get the back up punch done ?

[distracted]

There's seems to be a bit of confusion here between the two "types" of Emit punching

The old style stakes with units on the top, the cards have to make physical contact with the unit in the usual way to guarantee a punch - this also gives you the card backup mark.

The new style contact-free controls, as used at Oxford (which look like the control in this picture require the competitor to get within range of the transmitter and the card is seen to have registered by looking at the LC display, so needs the v3 cards. There's no backup as usual, if backups are required it's the standard pin-punch method

You can with the former risk things and wave the card over the top of the unit hoping it registers but by doing this you stand a very high chance of being disqualified, especially with one of the older cards...

[Gnitworp]

New style seems to register within about 1 metre hence the rogue 'punching'.