British Sprint Championships

[jezedwards]

Does anyone have or know anyone who has entered for the British Sprints and/or Rowney Warren who isn't going and would sell me their entry?

I messed up and didn't enter.

Thanks

Jez

[Crispy]

mat-d wrote:
i cant believe i forgot to enter!

little hoddy wrote:
I will no longer be going as I have Duke of Edinburgh's.
If you can get it sorted with the entries secretary etc then you can have my place - 11.25 in heat B

Jez, this was posted earlier in the thread. Worth a shout?

[mharky]

A while ago I was thinking about pre-ordering the new X-box, then selling it for massive proffit on Ebay, but never got round to it, would have been a good idea as they were going for nearly double the price...

Wonder if it would work with orienteering entries...???

[pyrat]

patrick walder isnt going anymore either.

[Adventure Racer]

For Rowney Warren you could always try contacting the organisor on Saturday evening

[Supersaint]

Have sent you a PM with regard to Rowney Warren.

[Little Hoddy]

Well whoever wants it, mine is available and my sister's also, she is 11.36 women's heat B
Only for the sprint champs.

[Blanka]

Surely once the start list have been done, since they are seeded, you can't just randomly add/replace people??

Not that it particularly bothers me, I was just interested whether it is actually allowed by the rules...

[Nails]

well i think jez would be in the top seed and since that is drawn randomly anyway...
better to have someone start than a gap in my opinion -i hate it when most of the field is 3 min gaps then theres a 6 min gap just in front of you!

[Simon E]

The British Sprint Championships Organiser has asked me to make sure that Nopesport readers are aware of the following, since we do not want you to get any incorrect ideas:

We will not allow any late entries or substitutions of runners. The closing date for entries was clearly advertised (and there was even a reminder on Nopesport), and the start list was seeded based on entries at the closing date. It is unfair to those who entered on time to allow late entries or substitutions.

As Controller I fully support him in this decision.

[mikey]

The British Sprint Championships Organiser has asked me to make sure that Nopesport readers are aware of the following, since we do not want you to get any incorrect ideas:

We will not allow any late entries or substitutions of runners. The closing date for entries was clearly advertised (and there was even a reminder on Nopesport), and the start list was seeded based on entries at the closing date. It is unfair to those who entered on time to allow late entries or substitutions.

As Controller I fully support him in this decision.

It should be added that the same position applies to the Open Men and Women's courses at Rowney Warren on the Sunday.

[jezedwards]

I started this debate and It's fair to say I'm very annoyed with the organisers stance and the outcome.

I accept complete responsibility for missing the entry date for this event and wrote to the organiser explaining why this had happened (due to uncertainty over my moving house date). The rules are clear and the organiser's are very strictly adhering to them, they have taken the time to inform me that they are under 'no obligation' to accept my entry request.

I feel that the organiser has actually spent more time preventing me from running and being obstructive than compassionately considering my response. Some people in life make decisions and some people choose to hide behind rules to be unhelpful. I'm sure they'll be some chain started about people giving up their time for free to help the sport but when it's you who isn't able to run and is fully aware of three obvious spaces in the start list it is very frustrating.

I could have been dishonest and run under some else's name and the organiser would never have even known. I hope that i never have the displeasure of dealing with this organising team again.

If i were the organiser i would have;

1 - allowed me to run on a provisional basis provided that i gained written confirmation from the start list approver that it was OK for me to swap with Ant Squire. If i couldn't receive this confirmation then i couldn't run. Therefore no extra work for the organiser and rules adhered to.

[distracted]

I think it is very difficult to make a rational decision when you've already been on the wrong end of one. I do not know the full circumstances of this case, but from the information that has been given it sounds like the organisers could have been informed of the situation before the deadline, and a mutually agreeable decision come to. A provisional entry by email which would be confirmed when the outcome of the house uncertainty was known perhaps? I'm in no way advocating this should be a commonplace occurrence, but it does seem to be an exceptional circumstance in this case.

Otherwise it sounds a bit too much like a case of sour grapes to me. There will always be places freed in a start list where people don't turn up/get injured the week before etc. Most people know that it's difficult, if not impossible, to sort out an entry in a seeded elite championships less than a week before the event. That's probably part of the reason the JK this year had a date after which no more elite entries would be accepted. And even more so if the seeded start list has already been drawn up...

[DIDSCO]

Ha ha British orienteering and its ever so funny entry deadline rules. In most big races in Sweden if a runner pulls out he can be automatically replaced by the next best, its no big deal.

In any other sport if a runner, horse, team etc pulls out the organisers will have no problem making a last minute replacement.

I've been involved with International athletics and athletes for a few years now, and I promise you we do everything possible to fill any vacant spots in the start list, even in the last hour before a race a runner may be added. We want the best possible race. Its no big deal.

As Jez says a simple email to the startlist approver is all that should be needed to make a quick swap of Ant Squires entry to Jez's.

Isn't it time to chill out, and try and do everything possible to get our best runners competing in the British Champs.

[roadrunner]

In any other sport if a runner, horse, team etc pulls out the organisers will have no problem making a last minute replacement.

Not in my experience (albeit this is at a far lower level of competition and in the UK, not Sweden). Many road races I've entered say that it is not possible to take over someone else's place, citing UK athletics rules - one very well known example being the London Marathon. (Though whether they invite substitutes if one of their invited elite runners like Paula can't make it I don't know.) I've handled entries for a large race, and we did allow some replacements after the official deadline had passed, but we didn't have issues like seeding to contend with, so it was much easier.

Compared with the cost of moving house, an event entry fee is nothing - so to avoid hassle, why not enter by the deadline anyway, and just write off the fee if you can't make it?