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[awk]

One very satisfied customer here. Didn't stay for the relays, but the individuals were much better than the stereotypical WR fare.

Day 1 was pretty straightforward technically and quite tough physically (at least for this unfit M45!) due to the heather and one big climb, but the planners made good use, and forewarned us that our course had been extended beyond guidelines to take in the most interesting section; definitely the right decision in my view. It did make the JM5S - JM5M jump rather big though!

Day 2 was one of the most varied areas I have run on for a while: definitely up to National Event standard (unlike some National Events!). The one disappointment for me is that I felt the map wasn't as good as it should have been: vegetation mapping in particularly was pretty arbitrary, and contours weren't red hot to put it mildy, especially one section of interesting detail that to my mind should have been revised before being used for control sites. (The decision by the mapper to stop and start contours in the middle of nowhere to show ground shape by a series of ring knolls was a signal that things were likely to be a bit iffy!). My enjoyment of an otherwise good course was somewhat effected by this, but then I maybe subconsciously trying to excuse the fact that I was struggling physically, and was pretty knackered!

That was the only caveat though: overall a really well organised and enjoyable weekend. It's great being able to walk to events, and not even cook as we could (and did) eat at Wilf's and Fat Pig's (breakfast was a highlight!). I'm really glad we went!

[Tatty]

The relays were very good. Great to have it organised as a "Harris type" relay, ie all teams mass started together, sorted out who did which controls plus the compulsory ones and off everybody went. After download and the 1.6km walk back to the camp site the results were up before we got there!!
Good courier service in Yorkshire! Prize giving, and there were loads of prizes, was all done and dusted by 1.45pm. Well done Ebor. Much better format than other events. Perhaps the powers that be might consider changes to the ridiculous number of classes at BOC. The Scottish champs certainly seem to have got it right and very popular with the competitors.

[Guest]

I have a list of 10 competitors who are known to have been out-of bounds (known by myself and a witness)('all areas outside the assembly field are out of bounds') on saturday and sunday before thier runs. Thus, following the rules of the competition, (Competitors out of bounds will be disqualified), these competitors should be disqualified without exception, unless they were declared non-competitive. If any interested persons would like a list of these names then please reply here. Unfortunately, the organisational team cannot be informed as certain members of his team are known to be dishonest and corrupt.

[Brizzle]

Ok you really need to get a life! You had to walk out of the assembly field to get to the start so therefore you're saying everyone should have been disqualified. Oh and the organisers said a lot of things, don't believe everything you read like what time the relays would start (don't take offence to that the organisers did a very good job appart from that).

[PeterG]

A load of pish

Seriously. What the nope? "Dishonest and corrupt". Its not the nopeing world champs. What difference does it really make if someone goes onto the competition area at a low key event. Sounds like someone is bitter about being beaten. Grow up.

[mikey]

Probably libellous rubbish

Like anyone cares.

[gross2006]

Name names please..... then I can buy them all a pint

[Patrick]

I have a list of 10 competitors who are known to have been out-of bounds.............

Are you Swedish?

Patrick

[brooner]

Name names please..... then I can buy them all a pint

I do believe these are the people in question:

brooner
pyrat
wattok
designated driver
rocky
dikalot
samsonite
harry
ernie wise
sgb

tut tut.

[Guest]

[quote="PeterG"]
Its not the nopeing world champs. What difference does it really make if someone goes onto the competition area at a low key event.

It apparently is not low key to the organisers.

They managed to declare me non-competitive on Day 2 for the heinous crime of registering for Day 1 on Day 1 and for Day 2 on Day 2. Apparently this gave me some perceived advantage of having unbalanced start times, despite my Day 2 start time being 10.31, which would have balanced with any Day 1 start, i.e. I would not have had two late starts. In fact I had an early 11.00 start on Day 1, something that a quick look at the start list would have confirmed. I.e. 2 early starts equal a distinct disadvantage, about which I have no complaints, as it was what I wanted.

I understand the organisers wanted to prevent any runner from having 2 late starts, but they seem to have adopted a very blunt instrument to acheive this.

Not sure how many other people were affected by this unpublished "rule", but there were a lot of n/cs in the results. This silly and unnecessary officiousness spoilt what was otherwise a pleasurable enough event.

[jenn]

I can understand that your situation must be rather infuriating, but im sure if you took up your case with the organisers in a civilised manner rather than making scathing comments anonymously then everyone would be a lot more sympathetic. as said before, its a low key event, and if the organisers didn't do the fine job that they did, the whole thing could easily have been a fiasco. The late/early start thing is slightly irritating (I had almost the latest start day 1 and one of the earliest day 2) but its how they have decided to make it fair, and im all for that.
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I didn't stay for the relays, so anyone fancy sharing the lo-down on how the new score version went?

[Brizzle]

unpublished "rule"

From the competition details: "Please note that to qualify for prizes you will need to retain balanced start times, therefore in order to process a change request it may be necessary to change bothe start times"

...what the hell is ASSOK!? But i'm sure they're right think of the numerous complaints if the word ASS was to appear in the results!

[Guest]

I'm surprised they were prepared to even use ASS OK as it's not a BOF registered club. I'm not sure if there are any rules re clubs, but I thought you were IND if not a member of a BOF reg club.

[bedders]

I thought the relays were a really good concept, and were pulled off quite well with only a few minor glitches (like people finishing while the largest class were in the start pen, and the start times being reversed). It certainly gave less experienced orienteers a chance to get into a competitive team and enjoy themselves instead of having to keep people waiting for them as in a normal relay. My sister (a super occasional orienteer) enjoyed it immensely and I think this is the kind of thing we need to encourage more competitors. Really good event, thanks to all involved.