JK Entries

[Becks]

He he...the Hungaria Kupa last year was more of a challenge in sleep deprivation than orienteering - I hope this year's is better organised and has better weather!

As a student verging on her overdraft I'm really not looking forward to the UK Cup season - I just have no idea how I'll fund all the competitions and the travel to them. I paid 6 quid or something ridiculous the other day (before Christmas) just for a CC by SUFFOC I think. Guy in the car said no student entries because he hadn't been told he could give them. That miffed me as it's BOF policy now isn't it? But he wouldn't relent.

Anyone any ideas where a not quite elite but slowly getting there student can go for some well needed extra cash?

[Simon]

Guy in the car said no student entries because he hadn't been told he could give them. That miffed me as it's BOF policy now isn't it? But he wouldn't relent.

My BOF card says that I am a junior and so I pay junior rate. If someone decides to argue then I usually have the card with me to prove my point.

[Olsoran]

JK in W Midlands, British in Cornwall, FCC final in Surrey, JHIs in South Wales, JIRCs in E Midlands, home near Aberdeen. Masterful planning! Spare a thought for those of us who really do have to travel this year! Yes, we'd certainly appreciate it being cheaper - I daren't think about the cost - but expensive it will be and it may need a significant supplement to the mortgage but we'll do them all because it'll be fun and I still can't think of a better family sport to spend the money on.

[Becks]

All the more irritating that the season begins the second I leave uni down south to go back up north! Sods law.

[Blanka]

I paid 6 quid or something ridiculous the other day (before Christmas) just for a CC by SUFFOC I think.

I think the adult entry fee was a quid higher than usual because they had to hire a loo in (no trees around in that area!). WAOC have one area where they're pretty much forced by the owners to get in loos, which increases the cost and requires a higher entry fee to cover that.

Guy in the car said no student entries because he hadn't been told he could give them. That miffed me as it's BOF policy now isn't it? But he wouldn't relent.

On that one I think you should write to the organiser and complain. When CUOC went to a CC at Epping where the people at registration wouldn't give students a junior entry fee, I wrote to the organiser and managed to get a refund. It's more about the principle than the actual money, but becomes especially relevant as clubs rely on local clubs for lifts and don't arrive in an obviously 'studenty' minibus!

Blanka

[Becks]

I think the adult entry fee was a quid higher than usual because they had to hire a loo in (no trees around in that area!). WAOC have one area where they're pretty much forced by the owners to get in loos, which increases the cost and requires a higher entry fee to cover that.

Nope, it was the one where you had to run a km or so to the Forest Centre thingie for the loo. Don't get me wrong, I really enjoyed the course, but it was steep, and especially as we had to copy down maps aswell.

[Tatty]

Taking costs of a hobby into consideration - a few years ago the Great South Run coat £29 to enter!!
The main problem seems to be BOF wanting such a huge amount.

[Godders]

Guy in the car said no student entries because he hadn't been told he could give them. That miffed me as it's BOF policy now isn't it?

Over the past year I've noticed quite a few events either not giving student discounts or having an intermediate student fee.

Back in 1996 EUOC had a proposal at the BOF AGM that students could enter events at the junior rate.

As it happened we were organising BUSA that year so we collected proxy votes off most of the runners and got the proposal through. Democracy in action Interestingly I had enough votes to alter every decision at the AGM with the exception of getting Gross elected as a councillor!

A couple of months after this I was refused entry at the junior rate to a badge event in the north west as the policy hadn't been ratified by BOF council (or some such excuse).

Best suggestion would be to get a copy of the minutes of the 1996 AGM to wave at anyone who refuses.

[PorkyFatBoy]

I paid 6 quid or something ridiculous the other day (before Christmas) just for a CC by SUFFOC I think.

Not at SUFFOC you didn't. As Blanka rightly says elsewhere, our event did increase the adult fee for the event at Sutton Common (28 Nov) to £5 to cover the cost of the portaloo. We still made a loss at that event, because of the loo, but everyone seemed to apprciate it - especially as there are no bushes to use instead. The land owner also was asking what we were doing with regards to toilets. We have decided that we should provide loos where there aren't any - even if this means making a loss. We are mindful of fact that this increases costs compared to other local clubs,

Other reasons for high entry fees are usully greedy landowners (like the NT at Ickworth) whose levy per entrant can be quite high compared to others.

[Mrs H.]

J I daren't think about the cost - but expensive it will be and it may need a significant supplement to the mortgage but we'll do them all because it'll be fun and I still can't think of a better family sport to spend the money on.

I'm 100% with you webby, I don't know any of my non-orienteering contemporaries with children aged 12,14 and 15 who still enjoy doing the same thing and going to the same places - they just seem to have weekends and holidays full of hassle and compromise. it doesn't have to be so "cute" as that souinds either, Neville is starting to find his own way to events with friends - even to the O-ringen - he'll just turn up when he wants food!

going back to Phil's original question about why such early closing dates - I think that's a financial imperative - big events have big expences and they need some money in the bank to pay for things like marquees and loos etc.

[Klebe]

big events have big expences and they need some money in the bank to pay for things like marquees and loos etc.

Not sure about Marquees, but Loos ? Who pays for these 12 weeks in advance of the event? Normal hire companies submit an invoice after providing the goods, so payment goes out after the event not before. Granted, some companies may need a deposit to secure the equipment. The first closing date still seemed far too early and too soon after Christmas before people had got their minds back on to this years events. I hope this wasn't a ploy to engineer a higher entry fee.

(I got mine in on the 8th. )

[Becks]

I paid 6 quid or something ridiculous the other day (before Christmas) just for a CC by SUFFOC I think.

Not at SUFFOC you didn't.

You're right, sorry SUFFOC...methinks it was HAVOC at Thorndon but I'm not 100% certain.

[Seamus]

Other reasons for high entry fees are usully greedy landowners (like the NT at Ickworth) whose levy per entrant can be quite high compared to others.

So did you get a discount if you were a NT member?

[PorkyFatBoy]

So did you get a discount if you were a NT member?

Yep, you don't have to pay the parking fee of £3. I think we managed to get a discount to £1 if you weren't an NT member but were orienteering.

[PorkyFatBoy]

methinks it was HAVOC at Thorndon but I'm not 100% certain.

Sounds more like it - London prices, y'see