Weight/BMI

[Kitch]

I don't like that calculation atall.
As a fit male what would be my expected ?

my BMI = 74.5/(1.87x1.87) = 21.3
which makes me a desirable woman.
(even 10 years ago when I might reasonably have claimed to be the fittest orienteer in Britain it was 20.2 (70.75kg))

But thats not why I don't like it, rather because it is far too simplistic. It takes no account of build - frame, musculature etc.

Perhaps this is why the numbers come in ranges, to allow for such variations.
That being so no-one person should consider that being at the bottom end of the range is good, whilst being at the top end is bad.
Instead accept that if you are in the range then you are in the range, don't believe that you should be somewhere else in that range.
So, Melons, you are in the right range for an endurance athlete, the variables of your build etc. may dictate that you are in the perfect place for you as an individual.

[harry]

yeah i guess, anyway we can have a chat about it at the weekend ...

Anyway to put it in context for males.
20-25 is normal for males and females but it is accepted that female endurance athletes can be between 18-20 and still be a healthy weight. obviously males having more muscle fibres/ bigger muscle fibres (forgot whther it was hyperplasia or hypertrophy or both) Muscle is a relatively dense tissue so they'd be a bit heavier even after normalising for height difference. -(So don't worry that would make you desirable kitch )

Wasn't saying it's a gold standard but the normal range is quite wide and therefore does allow for different body frames. So generally if your index is above 25 unless you obviously have lots of big muscles you could be healthier at a lower weight.

[Guest]

So generally if your index is above 25 unless you obviously have lots of big muscles you could be healthier at a lower weight.

So I better lay off the chocolate for a bit then

[PorkyFatBoy]

Chocoholic guest was me - sorry

[redkite]

My stomach always rumbles a bit (with worry) when I hear about kids, mainly girls, wondering if they will run faster by losing a bit of weight.

You have a natural weight and if you train hard, eat well etc your body will adjust to a natural balance.You do not see many overwight kids orienteering.

Ignore the figures, my BMI works out at 26, indicating overweight!! I have been the same weight for nearly 30 years. My fat measurement at my last check up 2 years ago was 15% indicating underweight.

[mharky]

my BMI came outr at 20.7, that makes me fatter than
Dan, yeah right!

this is all pish. wingstedt is a tank. so is helena jansson. lets go training then eat.

[J.Tullster]

Well put Mark That's exactly what I was trying to say before.

[Bogle]

My BMI is 18.72-19.04 . I don't know what's my weight exactly but 58-59.. or 57 ) and I'm 176.5cm tall-that's sure. And.. guys.. i'm eating enough.. even too much! And I think.. i'm good in running.. I don't know but I think if you want to be among the elite orienteers you have to burn any overweight!
Can I ask you something.. I don't know what exactly means BMI, because in Bulgaria, nobody use this: kg/(cm*cm)

[Kitch]

Body Mass Index

probably

[Dan]

mark how the **** is yours higher then mine you skinny runt?

[Bogle]

my bmi is 20.5 74/1.9x1.9 and I would say that I was one of the heavier junior guys (dont know much about the seniors) what are the recommended levels for male athletes?

mark how the **** is yours higher then mine you skinny runt?

Was that a wrong ?
Hey.. I did a test to me on 11.03.2004 and 4.06.2004... And at the first time(11.03) I have 7.4%(57.3kg,176.5cm) body mass[muscle mass-46.6%].. and the second - 8.6%(57.7kg,176.5cm)[muscle mass-46.5%].
When smb is training hard, he can't increase his weight i think, but with more long runs.. he can decrease it! The havier athlete have to train hardER than lighter to be on the same physical level...
And then think about this: can you run with Lakanen,Valstad,Mamleev,Karlsson, Nikolov :D from second last control to the final(woc_relay_movie) or you will lose some 30seconds..
Don't take me serious.. I'm sixteen(seventeen soon ).
Sorry for the bad? english..

[Kitch]

mark how the **** is yours higher then mine you skinny runt?

he's dense

[graeme]

Who are you calling obese?

80/1.82*1.82 = 24.15

Though I can't deny I'm old and not very good at navigating...

Sorry, this BMI stuff is just silly, and any of you skinny b*ggers who disagree are welcome to join me for a 2 hour run on Sunday and show me I'm wrong.

Graeme

[Klebe]

27.2 and Christmas coming up.

If I aim for the 24.5 mark will this naturally mean that I get quicker. (Ignoring the time lost searching for controls)

[Stodgetta]

I don't think BMI is aimed at athletes to be used as a tool for fitness. It is used much more commonly in the general population, particularly in view of the obesity epidemic. It is a very useful way of convincing overweight people that their weight is putting their health and life at risk. Muscle mass and build has an impact on the BMI in athletes, and there are better measures of fitness. It is not something to get hung up about if you are fit, healthy and active.

If I aim for the 24.5 mark will this naturally mean that I get quicker

Only in so much as you would if you took a 2.5-3kg rucsac off your back and then ran - unless of course you did exercise as part of your weight loss programme and got fitter as well as lighter.