jk 2024

[Crex]

Hope everyone is getting excited about the JK? I know I am

Incidentally, did anyone else notice the massive changes to course lengths between v1 and v4 of the programme? My day 3 course has gone from 6.0km to 7.7km
Looks like other courses have similarly increased. I wonder what that's all about - it seems like a pretty big adjustment to make...

[sborrill]

I note that M40L and M45L have a 1:7500 map for day 2, but M50Ls have 1:10000. Looks like I picked the wrong year to have declining eyesight.

And on the discussion of course lengths W20S has gone from 3.9km to 6.0km on day 2. Glad my daughter refused to come now...

[SJC]

Looks like the planner hasn't always taken age/eyesight into consideration where several age classes are running the same course.
On Day 3 W50L have a 1:7500 map but the W55L have to make do with a 1:10000.

[sborrill]

Looks like the planner hasn't always taken age/eyesight into consideration where several age classes are running the same course.
On Day 3 W50L have a 1:7500 map but the W55L have to make do with a 1:10000.

Given that at Sandringham, they managed to do both 1:7500 and 1:10000 versions of the same course for various age classes, I'd have expected them to be able to manage that at the JK.

[roadrunner]

Hope everyone is getting excited about the JK? I know I am

Incidentally, did anyone else notice the massive changes to course lengths between v1 and v4 of the programme? My day 3 course has gone from 6.0km to 7.7km
Looks like other courses have similarly increased. I wonder what that's all about - it seems like a pretty big adjustment to make...

Might this be the "straight line distance vs. shortest running distance" issue?

[buzz]

There's now a version 5 of the programme. I haven't seen any changelists anywhere. Any chance of the author providing the changelist so we don't have to read it all again?

[iainwp]

The document has many authors and I've only written day one's contents, which I've managed to keep down to 6 pages, 5 if you're not interested in the TrailO, not too much to read.

My advice: read it all again (on Thursday) ... also take note of how to pay for parking. I managed to negotiate a discount code, but payment still needs to be made.

Iain (JK Day 1 organiser)

[Scott]

I'm not running the individual days this year, but I just wanted to express my pleasure at the fact that JK2024 appears to have allowed for the possibility of seeding slower 21E competitors off onto a 21E2 course of the same length, rather than onto a shorter 21L course. Kudos again to the JK2023 team for setting the precedent.

(I'll instead be in Sweden, where I've been (probably over-)seeded onto M21E3 of 4...)

[Crex]

I'm puzzled by the many references to unfolded bibs in the JK programme...
Can someone enlighten me? Who has been folding bibs and why?

[pete.owens]

Looks like the planner hasn't always taken age/eyesight into consideration where several age classes are running the same course.
On Day 3 W50L have a 1:7500 map but the W55L have to make do with a 1:10000.

The normal scale for W50 is 1:10k, with 1:7.5k as a permitted alternative. The same course is used by M65 (with a normal scale of 1:7.5k). The rules state that:
"2.3.6 Where classes requiring different scales run the same course, the larger scale may be used for both classes"

[DM]

I'm puzzled by the many references to unfolded bibs in the JK programme...
Can someone enlighten me? Who has been folding bibs and why?

There seem to be more sponsors of the event than previous years. Sponsors will want their name and logo visible in return for their support.
Some people seem to object to running around with sponsors name on them, so fold the bibs.
BO are most likely doing this to get a bit of money in to help the sport. If sponsors see loads of folded bibs they will think again about continued support and costs for all of us will go up - which many won't like.

[Davy]

There is an explanation for the bib rule in version 6 of the "final" details.

[housewife]

If I do a running race I often find my thumbs getting caught in the bib. I think this is due to orienteers tending to run with their hands infront of them, and if they haven’t got a map and compass in them they are less encumbered and more likely to get caught. But where it is specifically requested that bibs are unfolded I am happy to comply.

[Scott]

Some people seem to object to running around with sponsors name on them, so fold the bibs.

I suspect it's less likely to be an ethical objection to corporate sponsorship than a simple comfort thing.

In particular, the giant square bibs that we've sometimes had in the past can be awkward if you have less torso space available to attach them to. I find that the only way I can fit them on the front on an O-top without folding is to have the top safety pins at nipple level, which inevitably becomes uncomfortable after an hour of running. Presumably attaching them to a small child's O-top without folding is basically impossible.

Similarly, when large bibs are printed on plasticy material rather than a more absorbent/breathable type of paper then they can act as unpleasant sweat-traps in hot weather.

[Crex]

It seems Nopesport is dead, even the JK can't rouse any discussion. Is the chatter happening somewhere else??

Day 2 course voided - can anyone explain why?

Days 2 & 3 - who enjoyed them? I gotta say I didn't enjoy day 3, maybe my early start and a lack of elephant tracks is what made it so horrid. Day 2 I had a late start and it was more tolerable. Overall, my view is that this forest is not (currently) good enough to host a JK