JK Results

[awk]

Still wonder about control 4 (77) on M65L at Kilnsey - over half the competitors lost time at this control, including 5 minutes by winner Andy Hemsted.

Interesting. Looking at other courses that used that control, the proportion of those making mistakes was much smaller, certainly nothing to note. However, they did all approach from a different direction (up the slope from a generally north east direction). Of the top dozen M65Ls, only 2 lost time on that leg - nothing exceptional.

I think it may well have been down to the fact that, after a relatively straightforward start, this was the first leg that started to push more on technique: diagonal downhill. Is it coincidence that the leg that had the second largest number of mistakes on the course (8-9) was also downhill diagonal?
Did everybody make the same mistake?

[mrmoosehead]

Re: comparisons with Yockenthwaite - Yockenthwaite was rough for the whole course (Brown, I think I was doing) but livable - wet, windy, cold, low visibility (bad for the start team)
But...
The hail at 2pm was by far the worst conditions I have ever orienteered in ( I was trying to run back uphill straight into it) - it took only a couple of minutes to turn a relatively benign moor run into a snow covered apocalypse - it was painful being out in that - hands numb, unable to put cagoule on because fingers not working, unable to see for sharp hailstones... wheels totally came off...
but I finished...
Kudos to all that carried on in those conditions.


( I apologise to anyone who was close to me for the sweary moment I had trying to protect my exposed skin and look a the map at the same time...)

[denbydale]

But you should have been at Yockenthwaite 3 years ago, a few miles up the Valley. That was real weather.

For those of you would would like to sample the delights of Yockenthwaite you have your chance at AIRE's Town & Country weekend on 25/26 June
http://www.aire.org.uk/ClubDocs/2016/4t ... r%20-1.pdf

[Mr D]

But you should have been at Yockenthwaite 3 years ago, a few miles up the Valley. That was real weather.

For those of you would would like to sample the delights of Yockenthwaite you have your chance at AIRE's Town & Country weekend on 25/26 June
http://www.aire.org.uk/ClubDocs/2016/4t ... r%20-1.pdf

Any decent campsites? That place is in the middle of no-where.

[mikey]

But you should have been at Yockenthwaite 3 years ago, a few miles up the Valley. That was real weather.

For those of you would would like to sample the delights of Yockenthwaite you have your chance at AIRE's Town & Country weekend on 25/26 June
http://www.aire.org.uk/ClubDocs/2016/4t ... r%20-1.pdf

Any decent campsites? That place is in the middle of no-where.

Here's one...

http://www.woodnook.net/campsite/

[denbydale]

But you should have been at Yockenthwaite 3 years ago, a few miles up the Valley. That was real weather.

For those of you would would like to sample the delights of Yockenthwaite you have your chance at AIRE's Town & Country weekend on 25/26 June
http://www.aire.org.uk/ClubDocs/2016/4t ... r%20-1.pdf

Any decent campsites? That place is in the middle of no-where.

Try
http://www.kettlewellcamping.co.uk/

[Freefall]

Scott wrote:

a UK major event with an appropriate number of portaloos

I am trying to contact the coordinators to find out details about numbers/provider/service levels etc. Royal Deeside 2017 organisation continues apace...Any other information on infrastructure (what was good or bad) from organisers and competitors point of view is also helpful.

[ba-ba]

when you're used to Fell Race and XC event portaloo provision (6 between a field of 500 recently, everyone starting at the same time as well so a big demand in a small time frame. Then there's the lack of bog roll - I take my own now), the majority of O events are blissful in comparison!

[buzz]

Kudos to all that carried on in those conditions.

I was out in the first hailstorm and carried on but I wouldn't think badly of anyone who retired. Some enjoy the challenge of harsh conditions but many don't so why carry on if you're not enjoying it. More importantly you can be putting yourself and others in danger if the conditions become too severe. Children in particular need to be encouraged to be sensible so well done to those who retired.

[awk]

and I don't find it at all difficult to believe that, in the absence of apocalyptic hailstorms, Hubmann could have run 5-minute kilometres.

The last control that GG visited (#8) was at almost exactly the 7k mark (290m climb). He completed that in 33:41, so was running at under 5m/km at that point. In fact, the top 5 at that point were all at 5m/km or better. Early days, for sure (although includes a significant amount of the climb), but I think that gives a good indication of the potential speed of the area.

[gg]

awk - I had probably lost 1 minute by then as well putting on more clothing and battling uphill to 6 and 7

[awk]

awk - I had probably lost 1 minute by then as well putting on more clothing and battling uphill to 6 and 7

That explains the split to 7.

[mykind]

Interesting that the winner on the day started near to the end of the start list (if my memory hasn't completely gone). They must breed them hard in Sweden!

[Arnold]

I'm impressed the race at Kilnsey was allowed to continue in what sounds like hard-core conditions. I agree that people should retire if they can't / don't want to carry on, but I also think it should be their own decision.

I remember the November Classic a couple of years ago was cancelled because of "high water" in a tiny stream that crossed the area - it had been raining hard in the night but was sunny and calm by first start.

So I thought with health & safety, insurance etc we wouldn't be allowed to continue in heavy conditions. But I'm very pleased we did. Although I suppose even if you wanted to stop the race it would be hard to do so for competitors already on the hill.

[mykind]

I was an official at the N Start and the really nasty hail didn't actually start until there were only about half a dozen competitors left to start ( mostly elites). Previous showers had been of a short duration so it seemed likely that this one would quickly blow through. As things stand I think that the organiser would have to have cancelled the event and by the time the decision reached the starts then everyone would have been out on the hill. I agree the weather wasn't great we all had numb fingers taking the start down and we were all well rugged-up so it must have been very tricky out there with the full force of the wind in your face. Well done to all those who stuck at it and also those who made the difficult decision to pack in.