Tio Mila

[PhilJ]

Are there any team start lists on the web site? There are GB teams entered and GB O'ers running for their overseas club, but I can't find nowt on the site

[mharky]

http://eventor.orientering.se/Events/St ... EventClass

[PhilJ]

Thanks, not many teams delared yet, expect they will be tomorrow/Sat.

[afterthought]

Team information is mainly speculative until very close to the event but before more on that, written for another audience, but posted here in case of any newcomers, an introduction.

It's more sport-on-the-internet coming up, with "10Mila", the London Marathon of orienteering, in Central Southern Sweden this weekend. I liken it to the London Marathon because it combines top-level elite sport with mass participation.

I expect:
Finding the right internet links will be assisted by an "All You Need To Know" article at http://worldofo.com/
The races can be followed free using a mixture of startlists, online results and the arena commentary (probably a mix of Swedish and English.)
There will be a paid-for TV service, about £15, in Swedish, which will include information from GPS tracking.

An event description is at
http://eventor.orientering.se/Documents/Event/15137/3/10MILA-2014-invitation-folder-ENG

A summary video of last year: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7sPgGLg2we0

The women's race (5 runners) will be on Saturday afternoon (start 1:30 UK, first finisher about 5pm.)

The 10Mila relay begins at 6:30pm this year, finishing about 5:30 Sunday morning.

The start time has been brought forward into daylight, the last leg is now the shortest (just), and which legs have "forking" (using the International English term, rather than the UK English "gaffling") has been changed. This is generally thought to have increased the decisions to be made in choosing who runs which leg.

A big factor for strong teams is the unforked legs run at night, leg 3 and particularly leg 6. Invariably these result in groups of runners forming, with the leading group often being referred to as "the bus". As this will have a very good night runner "driving" it will go fast, and a high final placing depends on not "missing the bus". The time difference between being in the bus and missing it will normally be quite significant compared to other legs in the race (leg 6 is 17km.)
On the other hand teams want to save their very best runners for the final legs, when the team's final placing will be determined by how your runner does against the many top internationals that other teams have on these legs.

The two strongest clubs are Kalevan Rasti (Finland) and Halden (Norway.) They were 1st and 2nd in 10Mila last year, and are therefore numbers 1 and 2 this year. (Such numbering applies to the top 150, as it does too in the women's race, and determines position on the start grid.)

Some scepticism about anything published about team running orders is best, but it is suggested Kalevan Rasti's last three will be:
8. Thierry Guergiou (France) - 7 times world middle distance champion etc
9. Fabian Hertner (Switzerland) - 3 world champs medals so far (Edit: originally said 1, see post pointing this out for a link to full orienteering CV)
10.Jan Procházka (Czech) - final leg runner of winning team world champs relay 2012.

I have seen no speculation about Halden's team but their last 3 might be Emil Wingstedt, Olav Lundanes and Magne Dæhli, all past or present members of the Norwegian team.

A graphic summarising last year's race, illustrating the importance of the long night leg (#4 last year):
https://twitter.com/worldofo/status/461430160542031872/photo/1

In the women's race look out for several British runners.
Helen Palmer, Lucy Butt and Charlotte Watson will run for Lillomarka.
Tisaren, including Claire Ward, were 3rd last year.
Cat Taylor will be in a strong OK Linné team.

Strongest Swedish team this year may be Moras (8th last year) - who now have Graham Gristwood as player-coach. Their team:
1. Andreas Holmberg
2. Donatas Stulgys
3. Simon Hodler
4. Simona Krepsta
5. Zsolt Lenkei
6. Artem Panchenko
7. Johan Lindberg
8. Graham Gristwood
9. Vojtec Kral
10.Roman Ryapolov

or...
1. Sweden
2. Lithuania
3. Switzerland
4. Lithuania
5. Hungary
6. Ukraine
7. Sweden
8. Great Britain
9. Czech Republic
10.Russia

In 10Mila look out for Kris Jones and Matt Speake (player-coach) in Lillomarka's team, and Scott Fraser and Ralph Street in Södertälje-Nykvarn Orientering (SNO) - 4th last year.

Doug Tullie has often run a night leg for Turun Metsänkävijät (18) - generally the longer names are Finnish clubs e.g. Hiidenkiertäjät (5), Vaajakosken Terä (10), Angelniemen Ankkuri (14).

Nick Barrable will probably be in a Ravinen team, and given how many Brits are members he will likely not be alone.

No doubt others know more, but information may be embargoed until the entry deadline!

[Dave]

Some scepticism about anything published about team running orders is best, but it is suggested Kalevan Rasti's last three will be:
8. Thierry Guergiou (France) - 7 times world middle distance champion etc
9. Fabian Hertner (Switzerland) - 1 world champs medal so far
10.Jan Procházka (Czech) - final leg runner of winning team world champs relay 2012.

Nice summary but not sure Fabian would agree with you there.

Nick Barrable will probably be in a Ravinen team, and given how many Brits are members he will likely not be alone.

I believe Lillomarka are by far going to have the largest British contingent of any non-British club this year...

[Arnold]

You can see the published team lineups here:
http://eventor.orientering.se/Events/Entries?eventId=7526&groupBy=EventClass

Final deadline is however only Friday night so things might change until then

[afterthought]

I stand corrected on Fabian Hertner, who has many more world champ medals than 1. That may not be the only error.

One of the leading teams has published their lineup (no Brits are involved.)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KYRIAIpLWOo&feature=youtu.be

Should I look forward to the SYO equivalent for the Harvester?

[Jethro]

Doug running leg 3 for TUME

[harry]

Although I like this translation very much, Night buses are usually full of drunk people.
At Tio it's commonly referred to as missing the train.
Or often, the Kratov-train.
As in:
"Were you in the Kratov train?"
"Yeah but I fell off the back of it"

This might be why the boys on the leg before langa natta tend to focus on not where they are, not where they're going but "where's the OK Orion dude?"

Hmm LOT of Austrians in Lillomarka. Maybe too many.

[ba-ba]

I have seen no speculation about Halden's team but their last 3 might be Emil Wingstedt, Olav Lundanes and Magne Dæhli, all past or present members of the Norwegian team.

I also believe Emil Wingstedt is Swedish

however thanks for the heads up re start-time (I knew legs and gaffling had been shuffled but not start time)

Quite a few clubs have published their line-up on twitter - however with some races tomorrow/friday (although later is a sprint) there's a slim chance jonny foreigners can edge their way in with a good showing.

[afterthought]

As I said

That may not be the only error.

Sorry, again. Perhaps I was confused by all this football talk about parking the bus. Or a sense that the atmosphere was indeed more like a night-bus than a night-train. As for getting Emil Wingstedt (7 x WOC medals) nationality wrong - well no plausible excuse there.

So we imagine the team coaches spending these days ordering their leg 3 and leg 6 runners to concentrate on finding and keeping up with a train driver. And it seems two likely drivers in leg 6 are Oleksandr Kratov (Orion) and Gustav Bergman (Ravinen). Will their teams be going well enough? But not Olle Boström this year as Järla are saving him for leg 8, might you say, with all respect to Alain Denzler, that they have a lesser light on 6?

Anyway, perhaps this thread is inspiring Nopesport readers new to net-orienteering to tune in on Saturday afternoon or evening? Maybe they're both still wondering who they should support, as identifying with teams/runners is the secret to enjoying spectating. How well can the Lillomarka teams with their Brit (and Austrian) runners do?

Come 6:30pm will someone new be typing "C'mon Kris"?

[eddie]

Feel free to shoot me down on this but it seems like there are more and more Brits in good teams fighting at the sharp end and getting top places (rather than languishing in 2nd teams).

Good luck!

[Street]

Come 6:30pm will someone new be typing "C'mon Kris"?

Rumour has it that Peter Hodkinson is also running first leg (OK Södertörn). He must have a shot at coming back first (provided he reads his control descriptions).

Edit: After a further browse it appears there will be a real British fight on first leg (hopefully not as real as that venla control).

Alan Cherry (Varegg) and Dave Schorah (Ravinen) joining Jones and Hodkinson.

[Spookster]

Alan Cherry (Varegg) and Dave Schorah (Ravinen) joining Jones and Hodkinson.

And with first leg being in the light, I guess we'll be able to see on TV who is who, rather than just seeing a bunch of headlights and relying on the radio control feedback.

Looking forward to watching it

[afterthought]

A splendid WorldOfO "All You Need To Know" article is now available.
http://news.worldofo.com/2014/05/02/10mila-2014-all-you-need-to-know/

If you have 150 SEK to spend, a combination of webTV, live results and the WorldofO LiveBlog is probably the best way to follow the event.

Teams mentioned in the article with British interest (maybe stretching the point) are: in the Women's, Tampereen Pyrintö (5th last year) with Riina Kuuselo, recently with Octavian Droobers for three years, and in the Men's Södertälje-Nykvarn (4th last year), with Scott Fraser and Ralph Street. Neither team has yet announced running order.