BOF Annual Reports

[graeme]

I like the ISSOM. I don't think its hard to understand.

with too much detail

Yes, there's more detail than you need, but only the ISSOM shows where you can actually go.

and fussy rules

Rules are a feature of the competition, not the map. If you use OS/google/OOmap, you're not placing restrictions on where people go. If you think thats acceptable, then using ISSOM in an event where "uncrossible" is advisory must also be fine.

The main newcomers problem with ISSOM for Runchallenge is that it doesn't have streetnames: but then nor does OS.

[Angry Haggis]

Here is the comparison:

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If we are comparing maps - the OOMap Street-O view is specially designed to be simplified. OOMap Pseudo has a more detailed view (it is still, obviously, far inferior to an ISSOM map which has cartography applied by a human being, but is richer than Google Maps):

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[SeanC]

For those that are unaware, open orienteering map means anyone can do a street event, you don't need your club mapper to make a map, you don't need an OCAD licence, you don't need any mapping skills. The application can also mark up courses and produce pdf's for you to print yourself.

Since we're talking street events, you don't need controls, you can use clues*. And so long as you stay off the private bits, there is no land use cost, the only cost will be the printing, and the BOF levy I guess.

You might find you need to add on some missing alleyways or remove some things, the application allows you to do this.

In short there's nothing to stop anyone reading this organising an event next week, apart from the event registration and a risk assessment. Just pick a good pub as a start/finish, and get going.

By the way, for those that think BOF do nothing to help club development, Ollie has been helped by a grant from BOF, though giving out your money was easy, Ollie should take the plaudits for the vision and the hard work.

*though I do prefer SI.

[AncientFootsteps]

SeanC wrote - In short there's nothing to stop anyone reading this organising an event next week, apart from the event registration and a risk assessment. Just pick a good pub as a start/finish, and get going.

Presumably nothing - apart from notifying the council / police / Highways Authority that you are organising a race along or across public roads - and then dealing with their responses (which if you are unlucky will be 'No' and if you lucky will be 'We don't like it but we won't actually stop you")

[Sunlit Forres]

Why do people have to be so bloody negative on here all the time? Sean's idea is perfectly reasonable. It's a group of clubmates going out for a run together with a bit of paper in their hand and having a pint afterwards. What do you think road running clubs do every week of the year?

[madmike]

Why do people have to be so bloody negative on here all the time? Sean's idea is perfectly reasonable. It's a group of clubmates going out for a run together with a bit of paper in their hand and having a pint afterwards. What do you think road running clubs do every week of the year?

My thoughts exactly Sunlit - well said

[NeilC]

Why do people have to be so bloody negative on here all the time? Sean's idea is perfectly reasonable. It's a group of clubmates going out for a run together with a bit of paper in their hand and having a pint afterwards. What do you think road running clubs do every week of the year?

And exactly what we do every week
http://www.adventurerunning.org.uk/
We stick to public areas and try out lots of different formats. No formal results are recorded so these are registered as activities not events (ie not technically a race). No permissions are sought, or required. Risk assessments are done but are pretty generic. This started off as following the fixed venue club night model, but that didn't work for us and the regulars were much more enthusiastic about visiting a range of different areas.

[SeanC]

One thought that occurs to me about Open Orienteering Map is that, because it doesn't take any mapping experience to make the map or mark the course, and it doesn't take much orienteering skill to do the course, and the areas aren't "owned" for orienteering by any club, and no orienteering equipment is needed, anyone can do an event. That anyone could be a running club from their weekly base, doing some orienteering to spice up their weekly runs.

Orienteering not done by orienteers.

[The Loofa]

That anyone could be a running club from their weekly base, doing some orienteering to spice up their weekly runs.

Orienteering not done by orienteers.

like this
http://www.stragglers.org/

[Marian]

Both OpenOrienteering styles are excellent for low key urban event/activity maps - and SO EASY. Delighted that it was partly funded by British Orienteering - I think I did notice that on Ollie's website but don't remember seeing it in Focus? Would love to see more promotion for its use - there seem to be lots of good examples.

I don't agree with AncientFootsteps about needing permission from the police etc etc to run round the public roads, but I would be interested to know why (s)he thinks we do?

[MIE]

Presumably nothing - apart from notifying the council / police / Highways Authority that you are organising a race along or across public roads - and then dealing with their responses (which if you are unlucky will be 'No' and if you lucky will be 'We don't like it but we won't actually stop you")

As most of these type of activities/events are score "events" they are not "races"
(in the same way that cycling time trials on the public roads are not "races").

[Glucosamine]

Though getting ever further from topic, this echoes debates in the MTB world and indeed in the public rights of way community. There is specific law about cycle racing, but not so far as I am aware about foot racing - never mind events. While an event which might affect other highway users is understandably a potential concern for both highway authority and police, we all have a right to pass and repass on the highway, and until there is case law to the contrary, this seems to cover the typical week-night street score. As urban event organisers/planners sometimes know to their cost, some urban open spaces may not be recorded highway, and some highways may have legal gating orders, but customary use generally covers most (though often not a good idea in a guarded shopping precint without permission). Control hanging can be another matter (an advantage to the clue approach) but council policy generally tolerates ephemeral event signs. Which only seems to leave the eternal insurance question ...

[NFKleanne]

Are the annual reports available online?

[Spookster]

Are the annual reports available online?

The 2013 Annual Report is on the website front page.

http://www.britishorienteering.org.uk/i ... t_2013.pdf

[MIE]

Are the annual reports available online?

or try http://www.britishorienteering.org.uk/page/agm
for the other supporting papers as well

Spookster: the relevant news item has dropped of my view of the front page.