WOC in the future

[Lard]

WMOC - Worrying Massively Overpriced Competition.
I doubt I'll ever go to another WMOC now the IOF is using it as a cashcow.

When will folk not realise that most of us want to partake in orienteering not watch the damn thing - so give up the Olympic drive.

What the olympics require will need a new type of sport - how about "Blasteering"

Britian will do allright out of the new disciplines, but deep down every true orienteer knows that the King of Kings is the Classic forest orienteer. I, for one, will work towards preserving this.

[Freefall]

The clash of the end of WMOC and Highland 2015 is not good for eithe. A serious suggestion, and one which I am currently exploring, is chartering an aeroplane from Gothenburg to Inverness on the Saturday night. I would be interested in readers views on this and I will start noting initial expressions of interest for anyone who might want to do this.

[Mrs H]

That's an excellent pro active response Freefall but I'm aghast at the IOF decision especially with a Brit (isn't he Scottish) at the helm. Why is the scheduling being lined up with the Oringen and not WOC.

As I recall when WMOC was at Halden (the only one I've been to) it was the week before the nearby Oringen which was itself the week before the S6D and some people managed to do all three.

Why isn't WMOC the week before the Oringen? that would make a nice long worth while trip to Sweden with plenty of time to get back for the S6D.

[andy]

WMOC = ORingen, surely?

I think the swedes have dug their heels in...

[Spookster]

WMOC = ORingen, surely?

WMOC is Gothenburg, just for "masters". O-Ringen is Borås, for all ages, regular programme. You can't really fit one onto the other.

I think the swedes have dug their heels in...

Yes. And because O-Ringen is 21-25 July, they won't move WMOC earlier.

[Big Jon]

Simple - remove WMOC from Sweden and get another country to organise it.

[greywolf]

Yes. And because O-Ringen is 21-25 July, they won't move WMOC earlier.

Isn't that the IOF's decision? WMOC and WOC are both IOF events, I can't believe that they think it's acceptable to have the WMOC long final on the same day as a WOC final

[Spookster]

Yes. And because O-Ringen is 21-25 July, they won't move WMOC earlier.

Isn't that the IOF's decision? WMOC and WOC are both IOF events, I can't believe that they think it's acceptable to have the WMOC long final on the same day as a WOC final

As I read the minutes of the IOF Foot-O Commission (FOC), they didn't think it was very good either, but they couldn't prevent it (or chose not to) because there isn't currently an IOF policy that says they shall not clash. FOC wants a policy that says that, to avoid a clash in future. Doesn't help 2015 though.

[Mrs H]

I think the Swedes may be about to shoot themselves in the foot with this one - infact we could help them take aim if we are clever. This year the oringen is in the arctic circle - a lot of people won't be going because it is too hard/expensive to get to. Next year is 2014 is a special oringen I think - possibly 40th anniversary - so a lot of people might go (I plan to) which means they might want a to try something like a 'special' S6D the year after. It's all going to come down to marketing I reckon

[Oldman]

Why hide behind rules of their own making: this just proves what an antiquated and bureaucratic organisation the IOF is!

[madmike]

WMOC - Worrying Massively Overpriced Competition.
I doubt I'll ever go to another WMOC now the IOF is using it as a cashcow.

When will folk not realise that most of us want to partake in orienteering not watch the damn thing - so give up the Olympic drive.

What the olympics require will need a new type of sport - how about "Blasteering"

Britian will do allright out of the new disciplines, but deep down every true orienteer knows that the King of Kings is the Classic forest orienteer. I, for one, will work towards preserving this.

Lard agree all your sentiments above but in fairness it is WMG not IOF that are using it as a cash cow in Italy.

[DJM]

I can't believe that they think it's acceptable to have the WMOC long final on the same day as a WOC final

... which is why WMOC will almost certainly be moved forward by a day so that it finishes the day before WOC (and the 6Day) starts - NB not yet listed on the WMOC 2015 website however.

This means that there is no direct clash with WOC but, as no flights from Gothenburg go anywhere useful in the UK, transfer from one to the other on Sarturday August 1st will be all but impossible by scheduled transport. Hence freefall's investigations into chartered flights.

The juxtaposition of the two events is exceptionally unfortunate for all concerned parties. Very many man hours have been spent at IOF/SOFT/BOF level in trying to alleviate this problem but, with events as large as these, the constraints are such that room for manoeuvre is distinctly limited and the 24 hour shift of the WMOC programme was the best which could be achieved.

Simple - remove WMOC from Sweden and get another country to organise it.

You are joking aren't you! This is simply not an option. You might just as well say remove WOC from Britain ...

[greywolf]

which is why WMOC will almost certainly be moved forward by a day so that it finishes the day before WOC (and the 6Day) starts

except that it won't, because WOC is scheduled to start on the Saturday...

[greywolf]

Simple - remove WMOC from Sweden ...

This is simply not an option. ...

It has to be an option, albeit an unpalatable one, or else you're saying that IOF has no control over the event once the hosts are identified...of course if that is the case then I guess we could scrap the mickeymouse relay and run a qualification race or two...

[awk]

As I read the minutes of the IOF Foot-O Commission (FOC), they didn't think it was very good either, but they couldn't prevent it (or chose not to) because there isn't currently an IOF policy that says they shall not clash. FOC wants a policy that says that, to avoid a clash in future. Doesn't help 2015 though.

Surely, but surely, the dates were identified before the countries were granted the races?

Even if they weren't, and if they were it can only be described as unbelievably negligent, one should not need a formally written 'policy' to enact what in the real world can only be described as blindingly obvious common sense.