CompassSport Cup/Trophy

[AndyC]

I learned at 11:00 yesterday that the software was not available to me. I didn't leave site until 17:00 after clearing up (having been putting out signage at 8am and spending almost all Saturday setting up, receiving toilets on Friday and visiting for other reasons on Thursday ) and have been working on it since.
We had raw results up last night
As I've had to do it on a manual basis I need it checking thoroughly and am waiting for the OK before publishing (I'm also waiting for the phone call to have the toilets picked up and have already dealt with the porta-potty that was at the start).
I now understand why no-one wants to organise events

[OGirl]

In the South East heat, 2 of the 7 cup clubs, and 5 out of 8 trophy clubs didn't have enough runners for a full team. Is this typical of other heats?

It seemed at Slaley that 2 of the 4 Trophy clubs didn't have enough runners either. Let's hope someone realises next year and the events don't clash with school holidays and are maybe not nearly a 5 hour/over 200 mile return drive away

[*Carol*]

I learned at 11:00 yesterday that the software was not available to me. I didn't leave site until 17:00 after clearing up (having been putting out signage at 8am and spending almost all Saturday setting up, receiving toilets on Friday and visiting for other reasons on Thursday ) and have been working on it since.
We had raw results up last night
As I've had to do it on a manual basis I need it checking thoroughly and am waiting for the OK before publishing (I'm also waiting for the phone call to have the toilets picked up and have already dealt with the porta-potty that was at the start).
I now understand why no-one wants to organise events

Having tried to work it out manually (and account for a) people running (down) out of class, b) people who weren't pre-entered and c) independents/non competing clubs before applying CSC scoring rules!) I sympathise entirely. It won't kill us to not know,and not everyone has the luxury of a day off today...

Thanks for organising the beautiful weather yesterday, it certainly made up for the violent forest!

[swat]

Yes, thanks to all the NATO volunteers for a well organised event. I enjoyed my run in the forest and thought the course was well planned to make the most of the area. The final is quite a long way off so there's plenty of time to work out the results!

[Happy]

Does text on a map always have to be orientated North as you might expect?

With a folded map at the SE round there was text orientated West, which despite me noting early on, I could not stop being confused as I am normally conditioned to think the text will be North orientated. The text by the way was the colour course in big red lettering.

Otherwise a good event, well organised by MV / SLOW.

[Angry Haggis]

I thought there was a clever computer programme that told you the definite answer in real-time (taking into account all the constraints)? Which would of course kill all that calculating fun you're having (sorry).

At the SE heats we had a screen up that showed the real time standings and I don't think they changed between when the event finished and what was uploaded to the site - unless of course there are any protests, runners having wrong club or age class or whatever.

I had presumed someone clever had written the required algorithm and everyone was using it..

We were using Autodownload which provides a mechanism for inter-club competitions like this, and a config file for the specific CSC rules was crafted by our SI guru and fed into Autodownload. Yes it was great seeing the clubs move up and down the leaderboard within a few seconds of each person downloading. There was a similar thing at the CSCF back at Fineshade a few years back.

[RJ]

There is an XML file in the Autodownload directory for the CompassSport Cup/Trophy competition, which you can load into Notebook or Wordpad and edit according to the competition you are running. Club names etc. Then at the event the XML file is loaded in to work out the interclub results. Simples (well it might be!!?)

[SteveE]

I learned at 11:00 yesterday that the software was not available to me. ........

AndyC, I organised the CSC round at Fineshade yesterday and we were supplied with Autodownload software from the CSCT co-ordinator a few weeks ago and this worked fine on the day giving 'live' results projected onto wall of the download area. Together with a local wi-fi network to broadcast this updated info to competitors i-devices (smartphones etc).

Apparently, this was well received by competitors and will also be used for the British Sprints this year.

[kedge]

The SW round was organised by WSX at Agglestone, with stunning panoramic views out over Studland Heath toward Poole Harbour to the N & the English Channel & the Isle of Wight to the E, though whether the views made up for the tough going is open to question.

WSX , like the SE round, used Autodownload with the additional software to calculate results on the fly, and had live wi-fi results available in the assembly area.

Cup Trophy
BOK 2428 WIM 1273
SOC 2219 SARUM 1246
DEVON 2212 WSX 1200
NWO 1683 KERNO 1070

[alanbrett]

In the South East heat, 2 of the 7 cup clubs, and 5 out of 8 trophy clubs didn't have enough runners for a full team. Is this typical of other heats?

We were one short I think. Our sole blue female entry did not compete on the day and we had a few mispunches, but the biggest factor was timing - we lost out on most of our active families. The timing of the start of half-term was unfortunate.

[SeanC]

It looks from the fixture list that next year's CSC heats are in half term as well.

Another approach is to make the scoring more flexible to take account of the changing demographics and minimal numbers of juniors in some small clubs.

Some of the clubs in SEOA look to small to get a team even for the trophy and would need to merge with other clubs for their members to take part in this competition (yet alone the more difficult competitions to generate a team for eg YBT, Peter Palmer relay, Harvester when it's not that local).

[King Penguin]

If we are to adjust the scoring to reflect the current demographics maybe Mens Green should become a "large" class ?
Alternatively, I have previously suggested that Short Green would be more balanced between the sexes if men went up at 70 rather than 75. Based on the results I have reviewed the ladies would still have the edge.
Is it reasonable for males to go straight from Light Green at 18 to Blue in the following year ?

[seabird]

The final is quite a long way off so there's plenty of time to work out the results!

And not having the results has given a good number of us hours of innocent fun reaching generally the same conclusion as each other, while only occasionally reaching exactly the same figures. Computer programmes would ruin all that.

Slaley was fine and surprisingly runnable. We were told that it was waterlogged - but in reality it was the driest area we've run on in some months.

[yted]

Although my club would benefit from a rejig of the small/large categories to favour old folk, I don't think there should be a change. Indeed it would be better to favour juniors and the 20-40 age range even more as we need clubs to encourage those age groups to orienteer, become members and take part. One change that may help is if the Brown and Blue Women courses could be each divided into 2 middle distance courses. The top folk could do both and count points in both while someone fairly new to the sport wouldn't have to face a 2 hour ordeal. My club have a fast developing junior development squad mostly young and doing yellows but we're hoping to be challenging for a final place in two years time.

[pgupnorth]

Good Evening,

I have tonight sent out a proposal to club captains for a review of the Competition and asked for ONE response per club by 30 April.

Peter Competition Co-ordinator