Condes, Peg Relay

[DeerTick]

Hi,

Anyone have experience of planning a peg relay using Condes ( and how this works with AutoDownload)?

AP

[EddieH]

No experience of a peg relay.

However I planned a relay with tapes leaving a spectator control and some very intensive other stuff around the assembly. I'd never have managed without e-mailing Fin, the author of Condes. He always answered quickly and comprehensively. He could not have been more helpful.

[Bill]

You can set it up as a score event, with control codes from 1 to n for the main controls, and the extra controls with codes of, e.g. 2A, 4A, 4B, etc.
You need to manually draw the lines in Condes between controls, continuous lines between main controls and dashed lines to extra controls.
I don't know what Autodownload does with score events but it should show the controls visited in what sequance, and calculate a score? Still have to count the pegs handed in to verify it
I'll try to attach a picture of an example.

[AndyC]

OK I'll ask -what is a peg relay?
I'm guessing it is like a Harris relay with a spine of compulsory controls with other optional controls to be picked up by the team and the name comes from the use of pegs to mark finding each control - am I right?

[andy]

and how this works with AutoDownload

I can't remember exactly how a peg relay works, isn't it where if you're one of the first N to a control you can pick up a peg which has a map segment to another control that, if you get it next in the sequence you get some bonus?

Anyway, in AutoDownload set the course to 'Linear' and then when adding controls that aren't complusory (i.e. the pegs) you can change the Control Type to be optional and give a bonus/penalty time. I'm not sure if you can check for getting them in the right place, perhaps try setting the course to 'Linear with free order sections' and put each peg control in the right place (but I haven't ever used this so you'd need to test it in advance, or phone SIUK to ask...

[EddieH]

AndyC asked: "OK I'll ask -what is a peg relay?"

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[AndyC]

Being unemployed I'll claim "insufficient funds available" but on the other hand I've got a few months worth of entry fees I won't be spending until I heal...

[Bill]

Peg relay is a good way to finish a training session or for a club night - a fun thing. Yes, as said above, there is a spine of compulsory controls. If you find a clothes pag on the kite you take one, and do the extra control for a bonus. So, the faster runners do more controls while the slower ones catch up by doing fewer. No need for extra map segments, just draw all the controls on the map distinguished by a different control code. Slow runner does 1-2-3, etc. Faster runner does 1-1a-2-2a - 3...
Usually run as an individual race with a mass start, not actually a relay.
Hand in the pegs collected at the end for bonus points or time.
Doesn't really need SI, just kites & pegs.

[DeerTick]

OK I'll ask -what is a peg relay?
I'm guessing it is like a Harris relay with a spine of compulsory controls with other optional controls to be picked up by the team and the name comes from the use of pegs to mark finding each control - am I right?

You have a normal course and a mass start. At some of the controls you find pegs (clothes pegs) fixed to the control - fewer pegs than runners. In order to claim a peg you must remove it from the control and deviate from the main course to an extra control. Slower runners who arrive too late to get a peg can therefore overtake the leaders and may reach the next peg control early enough to claim a peg.
The winner is the runner with the most pegs, running time only being used to separate those with the same number of pegs.
James and Jess Tullie did one for EckO this year at Tralee Beach (scene of the sprint race, Oban 2011). Great fun.

AP

[DeerTick]

Thanks, Bill, for Condes explanation and map. And Andy for AutoDownload stuff.

AP