Sheffield City Race 24 Nov 12

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Final details are up here

[Dave]

Note it's not 600m to assembley from the station, only 60m.

[Spookster]

Previous maps:

Sheffield City centre

South Street Park, etc

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Note it's not 600m to assembly from the station, only 60m.

expecting courses of 280m then, based on this trend.

[Spookster]

Great event, thanks ShUOC.

A pity that control 40 got Stolen (removed) early on (by the church caretaker of all people - the church manager hadn't told him the event had permission to put a control in the church yard). Also a pity that control 64 caused some controversy by being in a passage way above ground level, which was probably impossible to map "correctly".

But anyway, some great course planning that made the most of the technical challenges I thought, and assembly areas don't come better than that.

Results

[ianandmonika]

Pity several (many?) in the prologue chose to cross the OOB pedestrian crossing by the Crucible rather than use the marked underpass crossing point - maybe the line between controls should have been bent via the crossing point.

[haloite]

Photo's from final NopeSport race for 2012 + a couple of prize-giving pics

Sheffield Sprint and Chase

[ianandmonika]

Not sure if results meant to be as shown but overall Chase results should be based on overall time inc prologue (that's how a chasing start works), not just on the Chase leg alone - related to the point about following made in a separate Nopesport thread.

[awk]

Also a pity that control 64 caused some controversy by being in a passage way above ground level, which was probably impossible to map "correctly".

Thinking/talking about it afterwards, it probably could be if there was an easily recognisable symbol/colour for a raised walkway/bridge: whilst there is the underpass symbol, it really doesn't work for where the overpassing section is narrow (e.g. a walkway), or the section underneath is particularly broad. Yes, there's a bridge symbol, but it's virtually impossible to pick out, and isn't practical in many instances. However, if a paved area with an area that passes beneath was mapped with a separate colour (e.g. using paler or darker brown compared to normal paved mapping), then it would be more easily distinguishable. This coupled with a description that allowed 'upper level' or 'lower level' (I don't think the 'top' or 'underneath' symbols apply here) would make it easier to allow multi-level sections.

Just some thoughts.

In the meantime, thanks to ShUOC for a great event, particularly the first half of the prologue, which was as testing as I've found. Enjoyed the chasing sprint too, even if I lost out a bit, with 10 of us within a minute or so of each other. Phew!

[RS]

What a great event from a technical point of view. Kept you thinking all the time Well done Jonny.

IanandMonika said:
Pity several (many?) in the prologue chose to cross the OOB pedestrian crossing by the Crucible rather than use the marked underpass crossing point - maybe the line between controls should have been bent via the crossing point.

Why not put a control in the underpass so everyone has to go that way? Simples.

Actually, it was a shame about that as I imagine it skewed the results quite a lot, maybe even the Nopesport league results

Comment/observation: I thought a role of the controller was to ensure the competition was fair for all, so why didn't the controller pick up on the possibility of competitors using pelican crossings? There is so much info to read on final details that it is very hard to remember it all in the heat of a race.

[ianandmonika]

With multilevels, the idea of different colours for different levels could work. I'd thought the same for the Barbican area in London.
The idea of upper (or lower) level indicators being in the descriptions is good - too much guesswork just now. Even where a control was at ground level in the Chase , I was looking for it up steps because that's what happened in the Prologue.

[awk]

Actually, it was a shame about that as I imagine it skewed the results quite a lot, maybe even the Nopesport league results

I watched the road crossing for a while after my run, and about 50% or more used the pelican crossing on the way out on course B and the underpass coming back. In most, if not all, cases, I don't think the former was deliberate - there was a pelican crossing close to one of the underpasses, and I suspect quite a few people used it thinking they were legitimately using the marked crossing.

I also timed a few people, and I don't think it made much difference: nobody raced across the road, most made an effort to go to the pelican crosssing, and their slower speeds compensated for the more positive running of those going under the underpasses, who were also far surer of themselves (after all the road crossers were largely not sure of themselves, as the pelican crossing wasn't quite in the same place as the underpass).

[NeilC]

With multilevels, the idea of different colours for different levels could work.

Always a difficult one, at times you just have to admit that the area is too complex to be mapped on a single sheet (but can choose to use different maps for different levels). Alternatively a bit of creativity with colours is good - in the Barbican we have been allowed to run along the top of a canopy (but also pass underneath it). At Oxford this year a raised walkway was mapped as a darker Brown which again you could run along or under. For Brighton (http://www.brightoncityrace.org.uk/) we have a three level promenade and I've chosen the Oxford approach to map the middle layer. Personally I'd like to see this become the norm rather than use different shades of brown to depict different potential levels of traffic, something which is common on many sprint/urban maps.

[Strider]

Pity several (many?) in the prologue chose to cross the OOB pedestrian crossing by the Crucible rather than use the marked underpass crossing point - maybe the line between controls should have been bent via the crossing point.

Even greater pity that I was the only one to 'fess up and dq myself at the finish...

[Gross]

How is it that after nearly every urban event we hear stories of people cheating?