CLUB LEADERS

[Gross]

I see the BRITISH ORIENTEERING FEDERATION (aka English Orienteering) is promoting yet another Sport England money raiser targeted purely at those English clubs.

Great for them & surely a worthwhile cause....

But yet again an example of BOF acting as an English Governing body which it clearly isn't. SportEngland money & programmes should be handled by an English organisation not one representing the UK.

I don't see why non English members of BOF should be subjected to front page news on the BOF site that deals with English crap.

[Dave]

I don't see why scottish people would complain so much about their lives being paid for by the English

[plain lazy]

Care to elaborate on that one a little more Dave? Think you're treading on thin ice with a comment like that.

[Scott]

yet another Sport England money raiser targeted purely at those English clubs

Just to clarify, the "Sport England money raiser" in question doesn't cost anything and consists mainly of generic "e-learning modules" available online anywhere in the world.

I haven't tried them, so can't say how useful they actually are, but I don't see why free online courses on the basics marketing or finance for sports clubs should be any less relevant in Scotland than in England (although you're probably right that the in-person seminars will only be for clubs south of the border).

[Freefall]

I fully support any initiative, south of the border or not, that might help increase the number of participants coming into orienteering. There is always the hope that these individuals will at some stage decide that they would like to come to the premier multi-day event (the Scottish 6 Days), maybe starting as early as next year with Moray 2013. Of course they missed JK2012 and we are unlikely to see them again for this event for at least 10 years.

[graeme]

I don't see why scottish people would complain so much about their lives being paid for by the English

Bit of a non-statement there Dave.
I've never heard any Scottish people complain about their lives being paid for by the English. Nor any English people complain about their lives being paid for by the Scots.
Have you?

Anyone who gets interested in proper orienteering will soon move to Scotland anyway, so its all good

[Kitch]

Care to elaborate on that one a little more Dave? Think you're treading on thin ice with a comment like that.

What Dave probably means is that the HM Treasury carefully segregates the taxes paid by all UK citizens to make sure that Sport England money in entirely derived from the taxes paid by English tax payers.
At least thats what I assume must happen ........

[Kitch]

their lives being paid for by

is this perhaps a student's view on the world ??

[Mrs H]

I really don't understand why the SOA don't go it alone anyway

[graeme]

We keep trying to speak for ourselves, but we can't seem to get rid of that Lithuanian connection.

But yet again an example of Nopesport acting as a Lithuanian whinging body which it clearly isn't. Lithuanian-based complaints should be handled by a Lithuanian board not one representing the UK.

[greywolf]

I don't see why non English members of BOF should be subjected to front page news on the BOF site that deals with English crap.

do you really think every news item has to be relevant to everyone? i find it difficult to feel oppressed by an irrelevant (to me, in Scotland) news item

and for the record this particular project is lottery funded (two-thirds of sportengland's funding is from the lottery, rather than the exchequer) - national shares of lottery distribution are weighted by deprivation, so Scotland gets 11.5%, rather more than the population share...

[awk]

But yet again an example of BOF acting as an English Governing body which it clearly isn't. SportEngland money & programmes should be handled by an English organisation not one representing the UK.

Why? England is a part of the UK, and I don't see the English objecting to a British body handling English matters. Just because England is only a part of the UK doesn't mean that the UK governing body can't handle it. I'm sure they (and the English) would be happy to deal with Scottish issues if the Scottish wanted them to. In the meantime, it's none of your business who the English decide should handle their matters.

I don't see why non English members of BOF should be subjected to front page news on the BOF site that deals with English crap.

Which means, presumably, that they shouldn't ever front page anything that happens in Scotland?

[graeme]

Indeed, nobody should ever "front page" anything. Don't you learn any English down south nowadays?

[Street]

Indeed, nobody should ever "front page" anything. Don't you learn any English down south nowadays?

Do you not learn how to write correct website addresses up north nowadays?

[Gross]

it's none of your business who the English decide should handle their matters.

Actually it is my business. As a member of BOF who pays subscription fees then the activities of BOF are my business & I have every right to question whether or not BOF should act on behalf of English orienteering or as a UK National Governing Body. (but as I'm not a member of any English club or association I do not have any business in questioning who England may or may not want to handle their affairs - and the English do not decide that BOF handles their affairs, that is a decision for BOF)

It's the same question when it is argued at Westminster that Scots, Welsh & Irish MPs should not vote on purely English matters.... what the English forget / ignore is that they have no governing body of their own & are piggybacking onto another organisation who function is to deal primarily with UK matters.