Kendal Urban Race

[AndyC]

I concur with DJM - I'd had the CD ][ before on the course (and it was highlighted on the info before the start) and there it was what I'd expected- a narrow passage through OOB.
So I was looking for something similar and was wrong!
Another minor issue was that the positioning of 12 relative to 11 (the timed out road crossing) which lead you towards the Sth -where the shortest route to the actual location of the control was probably Nth.
But a minor if annoying issue in a good event.
Now any chance of my getting my Kendal Mint Cake at the Carlisle Race (which I think has some of the same officials)?

[charles2]

Great race with mixture of housing estate and old town, enjoyed it. I too did get caught out briefly by the grid line at control 127, but with 'narrow passage' as the description the line of blue through the building seemed appropriate.

[High Peak]

Thoroughly enjoyable - with a good mix of long and short legs, and a need to maintain concentration (as the brain began to fade) in the town centre yards at the end.
Anyone got any views on the olive green (which was rather more lurid than usual)? I thought it improved map legibility.

[Electrocuted]

Thoroughly enjoyable - with a good mix of long and short legs, and a need to maintain concentration (as the brain began to fade) in the town centre yards at the end.
Anyone got any views on the olive green (which was rather more lurid than usual)? I thought it improved map legibility.

My other half, who is colour blind, had a lot of difficulty distinguishing between it and regular green. He doesn't have that problem with the blacker olive green.

I enjoyed my plod round course b although I could have done with less in the housing estate as there wasn't really much route choice. The town part was great. Control 14 I thought had a correct control description and i went to the correct side first time.

[EddieH]

This is not in any way a criticism for a great race. I write only so that people can learn.

The pass symbol means a gap between cliffs (arguably for buildings?) and was therefore wrong for control 113 which being unambiguous caused no problems. However as it is always used for a through passageway, when I saw the description for control 127 it actually made me assume there was a gap (without that description I would have correctly read the gap from the map as impassable).

Ironically I only read very few descriptions on the whole course, but this one had a time out to check it out just before it. Normally you'd expect to get things right after a time out. Maybe I should have taken the extra 50 seconds allowance - hard to believe that I thought I might be getting near my minute after just 10 seconds

I just recommend that planners do not start using this symbol in this context.

[DJM]

I just recommend that planners do not start using this symbol in this context.

Exactly! The narrow passage symbol must be used only where there's a way through and never for dead ends.

[AndyC]

As I also thought that I took longer for the crossing than my split shows so I suspect that (generously) the officials may have failed to synchronise the SI boxes so the first was ahead of the second -a victimless crime. I wonder what would have happened IF this were the case and someone ended up arriving at the second before they arrived at the first?

[andy]

As I also thought that I took longer for the crossing than my split shows so I suspect that (generously) the officials may have failed to synchronise the SI boxes so the first was ahead of the second -a victimless crime. I wonder what would have happened IF this were the case and someone ended up arriving at the second before they arrived at the first?

Harold Wyber did it in 1 second (!). I ambled leisurely over the road (no cars) and took 4 secs. I'm not sure what Autodownload will do given a negative split on a timed out section, I'll ask them.

Well done to the organisers for sorting out the finish unit issue so quickly, I did wonder what the queue just after I finished was for!

[madmike]

Normally Autodownload just gives you a blank split if you arive at a control before leaving the last one.

[andypat]

The road crossing cant have been far out - I always (unless otherwise directed) use these time outs to plan ahead. My split shows 50 seconds which was about right for me.

LIke Eddie - despite planning ahead I looked at the control description and read "narrow passage" as meaning a way through. Agree best avoided as a control description in such circumstances.

[andy]

Normally Autodownload just gives you a blank split if you arive at a control before leaving the last one.

Splits don't matter though, all that matters is that you visited the controls in order and the start/finish time for the results.

Anyway, for those who are interested in a negative time out, this is what happens:

Yes it will get “added” to the time. Having timeout controls out of sync affects the overall time in the same way having start and finish out of sync does. So the overall time is wrong, but it is consistently wrong for everybody.

So if there's 1 unit before and one unit after then it's never going to be a problem as it's consistent.

Syncing controls isn't strictly necessary before every event but it's really important to sync starts and finishes and good practice to do checks/road crossing/controls to avoid little things like this.

[EddieH]

It seems to me that in certain circumstances it is not the same for everybody. If the second control is fast then some people may find that they are deemed to have taken over a minute even though they didn't.

[King Penguin]

....or if the second unit is slow under a minute when they should have been over.

[Darwin]

Can we have another race here as part of the Lakes 5 Day in 2014 please?

Please don't ruin the Lakes 5 days with yet another street event . Run it on the rest day if you absolutely must - or couldn't you just go shopping or something?

[Mrs H]

Gosh Darwin - what's wrong with an all round competition - are you afraid you can't hack it of something?