Results display at big events

[Street]

http://www.oringen.se/english/orteren/h ... 67_en.html

http://www.oringen.se/english/orteren/h ... 65_en.html

So if this happened at the 6 days then we would be only 2 years behind Sweden.

[Paul T]

Does anyone have a simple guide to what’s involved in creating local wifi’d results - hardware, software, security issues, lessons from experience etc etc ? I’d like to think that this is within everyone’s grasp for low cost, but it would be interesting to hear from anyone who has done it.

Wether it fulfills the social function of a results board is a separate question….

[Safety]

http://www.oringen.se/english/orteren/halsingland2011/newsarchive/news/newdisplayscreensinplace.1467_en.html

http://www.oringen.se/english/orteren/h ... 65_en.html

So if this happened at the 6 days then we would be only 2 years behind Sweden.

The O-ringen setup looks just the ticket, if you had 1 of them nationally held that was available for use for all the biggest events, you would be right in. JK, BOC, 6-days, Lakes and Welsh, British Schools, etc etc. well worth the investment. Add a powerful wi-fi hub up in the roof, and you get the mobile / tablet access as well. Give you a central hub where people can socialise as well.

I remember crowds of 100+ looking at results from time to time and this would increase if the results were scrolling on a screen and you had to wait (and then wait again to see how everyone else did). Not sure 8 screens would cope with this.

If you were trying to put every set of results on every screen it would be a pain but you wouldn't, you would select a couple of sets of results per screen. Just as you do with paper and paste. 1/2 the screens would be women, half men. You would then select 2 or 3 courses per screen and have a notice above saying which were on which. If there were 2 getting a particular amount of attention say Elite Men and Women put them on a screen of there own. Very flexible you could change it as the event went on to match the demand.

All of this is quite easy to do through Autodownload without any other software needed. Not sure about the live web results for tablets phones etc.

As for the big screen, the world cup in Guildford a few years ago worked well, (apart from my ankle injury) becasue the Elite sprint races set off right at the end, people ran there courses then hung around to watch the elites. Felt like a really nice atmosphere, but the weather did make it and sadly we are always at the peril of that.

[Tatty]

We don't all have i-phones - or any mobile come to that. Please don't get to stage of not displaying paper results. Just need to ensure there is enough room around them to view that adequately!

[keever]

We don't all have i-phones - or any mobile come to that. Please don't get to stage of not displaying paper results.

They have to go eventually. It's massively wasteful of paper, ink, paste and volunteer time. The more up-to-date you want the results, the more you waste.
You don't need a mobile device if results are displayed on a monitor / projector / big screen.

[Freefall]

We (SOA) are trying to set up an evening workshop on Tuesday 6 March, likely venue Stirling. We don't have time to cover everything but we want to look at how "stuff"should all hang together and be managed as well as play with a few toys (radio controls, GPS). I will get some details together on the SOA website but if anyone is interested please get in touch here or to my SOA mail colin.matheson"at"scottish-orienteering.org I am not very good at noticing PMs. Assistance and ideas for JK2012 are welcome and you never know you might find yourself in the driving seat for WOC2015.

[Adrian]

We don't all have i-phones - or any mobile come to that. Please don't get to stage of not displaying paper results.

They have to go eventually. It's massively wasteful of paper, ink, paste and volunteer time. The more up-to-date you want the results, the more you waste.
You don't need a mobile device if results are displayed on a monitor / projector / big screen.

I disagree that it's "massively" wasteful of anything, and we should definitely continue having results available, either on paper or on a big screen, at all events.

[EddieH]

5 years ago in Finland I was massively impressed by their software. There was no splits print actually at the finish. You could go to any of a number of printer points whenever you liked and you got a comprehensive print out showing the top of your lass, or if you were lower down, the top 3 and the rest with you as near the middle as possible. It also had every leg split time and position and the overall position at each control. Utterly fascinating and way more interesting than any set of results you could display.

Combine this software with a wifi of live results as at last year's 6 day and I believe you could happily forego the results boards.

Yes some peple woud complain, but the logistics of transporting those boards, hammering the posts into each venue, all the glue and manpower is massive. Life has to have compromises.

I personally think that wifi alone is probably justified by these savings, but if you could get this software it would be great. The Kainuu week used thi service for sure.

[Paul Frost]

I disagree that it's "massively" wasteful of anything, and we should definitely continue having results available, either on paper or on a big screen, at all events.

Not sure what quantity "Massively" is, but we used about 20 reams of A4 paper for results and start lists at the 6 Days in Oban. It's was probably an almost full time job for one person doing the pasting.

[andy]

Yes some peple woud complain, but the logistics of transporting those boards, hammering the posts into each venue, all the glue and manpower is massive. Life has to have compromises.

I personally think that wifi alone is probably justified by these savings, but if you could get this software it would be great. The Kainuu week used thi service for sure.

This is a great idea. Autodownload probably isn't far off supporting it fully. At some mtb lap events that SI cover they offer a splits print whenever you want, usually next to the live results, so you can pop in your SI card and it gives you your split times. I'm sure it could be adapted to do results although would need a little bit of thought. Something for organisers to talk to SI about

[greywolf]

screens a la Oringen - a big yes & much better than the usual paper lists
by all means provide a wifi service if the mobile phone geeks demand it, but please don't have it as the only option - very unsociable and excludes those without the latest gadgets...

re: splits printouts - in Provence a few years ago they were produced on sticky backed paper,you could peel off the backing and stick them on the back of the map - much better than the poxy till receipts we usually get where even if you don't lose them on the journey home the ink soon wears off..

[Tatty]

What a brilliant idea My hubby always seems to screw his up and then has to smooth them out before stapling them onto his map!

[andy]

Don't think I ever look at my splits print for anything other than to check I didn't mp, very occasionally compare splits but then that's so much easier online afterwards..

[HarryO]

The way to go has got to be WiFi / mobile devices surely!?

[DJM]

Freefall wrote:

We (SOA) are trying to set up an evening workshop on Tuesday 6 March, likely venue Stirling.

We're actively considering electronic results display (no paper) and wireless networks for the arenas at this year's Croeso (http://www.croesomultiday.org.uk) so it would be good to know what came out of the workshop which might be of use to us ...