UK Masters Cup 2011

[Kerry W]

It is actually a very good representation of my face at the finish yesterday!

Thanks for getting the results up so quick. Don't think I'll be worrying the contenders for much longer!

Happy orienteering all!
Kerry

[EddieH]

This is just a warning for people not to expect as rapid a production of the tables after this weekend, as I will be travelling home all day on Monday and have business appointments through Tuesday.

[IanD]

I wonder how the scores will be calculated for two-race events when somebody gets disqualified in one of the races?

For example, the British Sprint Champs, W65 class.

A Final:
1st Irene Crawshaw 19:12
2nd Ruth Rhodes 20:13
3rd Gill Bennett 28:04
mp Sheila Carey
mp Susan Hateley
mp Kay Sayer
B Final:
1st Charlotte Thornton 21:04
2nd Sue Bicknell 22:03
3rd Lesley Norton 31:23

Part of me thinks that everybody in the A final has beaten everybody in the B final, so Sheila, Susan & Kay should share 4th place, with Charlotte scored as 7th.

On the other hand, it could be argued that two completions are required, so that Charlotte is 4th, with Sheila, Susan & Kay disqualified and not scoring. And in this case, presumably someone disqualified in the heat would also not score, even if they won the B final?

Do the rules cover this? Is there any precedence?

[Homer]

I'm of the opinion that two completions are required to score anything.
Clive Hallett won M45B, having been dqd in the heats. I'm sure he'll fully understand if he doesn't get the points for finishing 19th

[LostAgain]

I'm of the opinion that two completions are required to score anything.
Clive Hallett won M45B, having been dqd in the heats. I'm sure he'll fully understand if he doesn't get the points for finishing 19th

The results listed in Assembly showed Clive Hallett and the other runner who finished 2nd in the B final to be N/C.

It seems logical to me that it was a 2 part race and you have to complete both to record a "full" result.

[EddieH]

I got back at 11.00 last night hence the delay.

Results are now calculated and up on the BOF site, but the alternate site has had an error so they are not there yet.

The sprint has been a bit of a pig to calculate as I have taken Homer's and LostAgain's view that 2 completions are required. However the published results listed all B course runners (I guess they can get ranking points in their final) with no NCs. A good deal of manual checking has been required. It was also not helped by the difficulty in copying and pasting from the SI website which meant that several people towards the bottom got accidentally missed off - pain enough anyway, but when it happened in an A final it meant that all the B finalists had to have their points reduced to let these people back in. (Clive is accidentally in the published Sprint scores, bt I have removed him since)

It occurs to me that some people might have been missed off for this very reason in previous events where results have been on the SI website. No-one has complained yet.

John Britton is the first person to drop a result and is looking very strong in M60, but is far from impregnable.

Poor Ranald as the chair of the formulating group is the only person to have twice falen foul of being in such a large class that he scores no points despite finishing.

Graeme leads M35 and looks as though he well might win it despite being M45.
Richard only needs 2 more wins to wrap up M40 (barring a tie)
Charlie and Quentin are both looking strong in M45 with both Robert and Clive well poised.
Jonathan is looking good in M50 but without enough top scores for any comfort whatsoever.
M55 is absolutely wide open.
Mike is looking strong in M65, but Julian and Jim are very strongly placed.
Barrie is already looking a strong favourite in M70.
M75 has few regular runners although John with 3 wins and a second looks the one to beat.
With the wins being well spread in W35 Anne looks strong but anything could yet happen.
W40 is very similar with Jenny looking good.
Lesley with 4 wins in W45 looks best plcaed, but with other race winners attending few events so far this is very open.
W50 looks similar with Jane strongest with 3 wins.
W55 seems about as open as M55.
W60 winners are spread about liberally though Gill with 2 wins and a second is probably best placed.
Sheila looks well set in W65 especially as the other winners are spread about.
W70 is nicely poised and open.
Ursula has already scored 8 races, but can Alison or another put in enough top races to overtake her?

[Urban]

Assuming I'm reading the tables correctly on the BO site there are a few errors on points allocation that I've scanned.
Specifically, W35 Helen Pearce won the middles but hasn't been given 60. Carol Lovegrove got the 60.
On middles in W40 Jenny P won but only got 44 points, Julia J was 3rd but got 43 points, the 60 points went to Caroline Louth............

[Roger]

Results are now calculated and up on the BOF site, but the alternate site has had an error so they are not there yet.

I've fixed Eddie's upload file (and made the upload facility a bit more tolerant of things that aren't in the expected format), so the results at www.oxfordfusion.com/ukmc/ should now reflect what was in the file. It sounds as if corrections may follow, though.

[o-a]

Assuming I'm reading the tables correctly on the BO site there are a few errors on points allocation that I've scanned.
Specifically, W35 Helen Pearce won the middles but hasn't been given 60. Carol Lovegrove got the 60.
On middles in W40 Jenny P won but only got 44 points, Julia J was 3rd but got 43 points, the 60 points went to Caroline Louth............

W35 points are certainly all mixed up for sprint and middle champs with Sacha appearing twice in the list with wrong points on both occasions. Has been late I suppose... Thanks for keeping this going though.

[EddieH]

I'm sorry - I have no idea what happened with W35s and 40s it looks as though I downloaded totally wrong results from somewhere as they bore little to no resemblence to the correct figures.

I believe I have now corrected them including giving the 60 points to Sarah Rollins. The corrextions have not yet hit the websites though.

[EddieH]

Note the new title as it has finally been agreed that CompassPoint, who have generously offered to give a prize to the winner of EVERY class, will have their name attached to the league.

Having got home some time this morning I have calculated the new tables, but for some reason am unable to upload them to Roger's site. It seems that you will have to wait until they get on the BOF site tomorrow.

[EddieH]

I have finaly managed to upload the tables to Roger's site http://www.oxfordfusion.com/ukmc/

It seems that the file has simply become too large for it. When I split it in 2 it uploaded perfectly.

Richard is trhe first person to kill a class in M40 although theoretically he can still be beaten by Jason, Steve Watkins or John Duckworth.

[andypat]

Eddie
Thanks for getting this up so soon!
Minor glitch noted in that the results seem to have shifted one place along (in that race 1 is missing and we appear to have been given a result for the British already!)

[EddieH]

I too noticed that. I imagine most people can see what's happened.

I'll alter it when I have (as I no doubt will) some other adjustments to make. Let me know any errors anyone.

[EddieH]

The latest Compass Point Masters Cup points have been up for a day now. However following a request from PG Roger's display includes a column with the average points which may help you spot who is in contention as the league gets nearer to completion.

I don't think anyone cannot be mathematically beaten, although Richard Barrett has all but won M40.