Compass Sport Cup

[graeme]

awk/Loofa

I don't see how these leagues are meant to work with small clubs? We had the bare minimum 13 scorers - no reserves. Any more and we'd just stay at home. But we have a few good runners: if you scored over, say, 10 people, we might even be competitive with some big clubs (but then lots of big club people would be excluded). Are you proposing we sit forever in Scottish league division 2, never competing nationally? Or what?

Do you think the second tier of big clubs who can turn out 25 mediocre runners are more deserving of a final place than the stronger small clubs with a dozen good runners? I can see that's a viable argument (but it's not one any SOA rep could support at SCG).

[The Loofa]

Graeme
You're point is simply one about how many runners should count, and is written from the standpoint of a club that struggles to get 13 counters. Several posts ago there was something similiar (but opposite) wanting more than 25 to count - something which only the small handful of truly enormous clubs could cope with.

where we have similiar points made from each extreme end, surely the middle ground is suitable.

I've gone on record many times querying that 25 is too many, and my 24-20-16-12 model is not something I'm hung up on - it's the principle that's important. If we went for 6 divisions with counters being 24-21-18-15-12-9, I'd be just as happy.

The CSC Cup is intended to be a big occasion for a club when you want to get out as much of your membership as possible. Perhaps a small club with high quality o'ers should concentrate on relays - or better still put effort into recruiting and developing newcomers.

And as for Sean's point try organising an annual DFOK vs MV or DFOK vs SAX match and see where it leads

[graeme]

where we have similiar points made from each extreme end, surely the middle ground is suitable.

Such "middle ground" simply excludes anyone smaller than the middle ground. If you take, 19 as "middle" between 25 and 13, then the CST clubs will be unable to raise a team: you simply end up with a scaled-down CSC and no CST.

The CSC Cup is intended to be a big occasion for a club when you want to get out as much of your membership as possible.

Exactly: we got about 25% of our membership to travel the 520miles to take part. This includes younger parents and children who were allocated to courses beyond their abilities - and so ran noncompetitively - but still shared in the club success. Other small clubs similarly.