Sue Harvey MBE

[EddieH]

WOC 99 was Robin Harvey and had nothing to do with Sue whatsoever. Like Gross I won't enlarge on this here

[Simple Soul]

As I understand it there is a grenade which only two people know about that has nothing to do with the topic of Sue Harvey MBE.
Should I be as worried as I was over swine flu?
Is that a damp squib I see?

[Gross]

Most of the posts have nothing to do with Sue Harvey MBE

[SeanC]

Very few threads stick to the point. In "Orienteering in the Snow" LostOldTimer started by asking which events were on, and it's currently discussing rubbish collection.

[simonbeck8848]

Mrs H .. "Harveys set the example..."

Thanks for that post, H, I liked what you said, and I think you put it very well.

AS to my feet problems being the result of wearing wellies, the fact is that the amount of running I've done wearing wellies is tiny compared to the amount they've been used for walking (mapping), at least 80 percent of the mapping I've done has been wearing wellies and I have always found them comfortable until problems with my feet forced me to move up a size and now the leverage on my big toes resulting from the longer amount of boot in front of the foot is painful and I no longer wear them at all instead for short distances eg mapping on flat wet grass / snow Sorry this has nothing to do with the Harveys, but then we've said it all regarding Sue Harvey, as to Robin, well, we'll see...

As for WOC99, I won't repeat what I've heard concerning Robin H, what skulldudgery is Gross up to bringing this up, I wonder? It raises the wider issue of how decisions get taken by organising cttees, and how, in our wonderfully democratic sport, a lot of what are arguably the most important decisions get taken by people who are pretty much self-appointed and not accountable

I used to be a planner of repute, the courses I planned for the scottish 6 days in 1981 and 1983 were well received and I did well in the armchair planning contest in 1984, since then there have been 3 major events when my offer to plan was ignored or rejected, and those who went ahead and did it made some fairly disastrous mistakes, should key officials be subjected to some sort of voting-in process like we vote in treasurers and secretaries(etc) or is it simply less work to allow the appointment of whoever's got the ear of the organising cttee?

[Red Adder]

I find my (admittedly rather cheap) wellies too painful to wear for long - the arches ache a lot . Luckily most of my areas are generally dry and not too rough so I don trainers - I find that as they are lighter than walking boots I seem to tire me less. The boots come out when its wet or adders are about. There are quite a lot in EA forests and they don't take too kindly to being trodden on - a friend spent several days in hospital after one bit him on the achilles whilst mapping.

[Oldman]

It raises the wider issue of how decisions get taken by organising cttees, and how, in our wonderfully democratic sport, a lot of what are arguably the most important decisions get taken by people who are pretty much self-appointed and not accountable

So that I can understand this better, can you give me a couple of examples of what you are referring to?

[Red Adder]

My experience of committees in O is that anyone who volunteers for anything has their offer very gratefully accepted - I suspect many jobs are allocated to those who didn't manage to sit firmly enough on their hands - like our ex-treasurer. "You've kindly done the job for 4 years now and X has offered to take over (I'm not sure that X was fully aware of this at the time). By the way , I 've nominated you for chairperson."

[simonbeck8848]

Well, last time I offered to plan a big event I received a very polite letter that went something like "one of the problems we have is deciding who(m) to select from the large number of offers to plan from well qualified people.... ... we are selecting X because he lives locally and comes with a controller with whom he has worked before...."

OTOH perhaps it was tactful language for something else..?

[simonbeck8848]

I see nobody's risen to the Gross's bait about WOC99 and Robin Harvey. Well, there is some more tactful langauge on one of the WOC99 maps, should Robin's MBE be cancelled? Perhaps it should be, going by some of what I've heard....! Pity he couldn't have simply given it to his wife, it would have saved a lot of form filling

[rebbid]

I think Nopesport missed something pre 19/4/09. Did you know there are about 5,000 old threads you could comment on in banter and discussion alone? .... with subjects such as "Tips on dealing with non-orienteering husband", "Biggest Geek on Nopesport" and "Who is Gross"?

[Oldman]

It raises the wider issue of how decisions get taken by organising cttees, and how, in our wonderfully democratic sport, a lot of what are arguably the most important decisions get taken by people who are pretty much self-appointed and not accountable

So that I can understand this better, can you give me a couple of examples of what you are referring to?

Well, last time I offered to plan a big event I received a very polite letter that went something like "one of the problems we have is deciding who(m) to select from the large number of offers to plan from well qualified people.... ... we are selecting X because he lives locally and comes with a controller with whom he has worked before...."

OTOH perhaps it was tactful language for something else..?

Can you explain how the person writing the letter was "pretty much self-appointed and not accountable"? Was he/she not a club-appointed or elected offical, and why isn't he/she accountable?