World Schools 2009

[mharky]

:sigh:

[Mrs H]

ha ha sign indeed - I'll try and explain succinctly but it's complicated.

Yes Frog ordinary orienteers without a school team can still go. There are two different sorts of teams. The schools teams which come from schools where proper orienteering is treated as a main stream sport like Ulverstone and king Henry's. They have to have 5 pupils in each age class team.

then there is the select team which is generally 5 good club orienteers. but this is further complicated by the fact that 3 of the select team have to be chosen from schools which field " a team" at the schools champs (not the selection race before it) "a team" can be as few as 3 boys OR girls in a single year group. some times selectors have to go a fair way down the results to find the third member. the other two places go to the best orienteers with or without "a team".

So if you've got a likely lass or lad - pay two friends to start their race (they don't have to finish it) or failing that enter a couple of scarecrows and throw them over the start line!

The selected runners have to perform well at the selection race - which is a full standard event - and the schools champs - which is not. The results are not always clear as school years and age classes do not coincide.

Oh by the way - I had a look on young Neville's World schools top which must pre-date Robert's and it definitely says England on it .

[HOCOLITE]

So if you've got a likely lass or lad - pay two friends to start their race (they don't have to finish it) or failing that enter a couple of scarecrows and throw them over the start line!

This is not true as Mrs H knows. There are rules about teams that mean that if two friends start and do not finish then their previous experience is investigated to ensure that they are not entered to 'start and withdraw'. In fact their performance on the day can be scrutinised in cases where the selections are close. All competitors have to have completed three O events at the standard they are entering, however pupils are not discouraged from getting their friends to support them.

Anyway we should be supporting those selected and looking forward to the next selection races. All rules are posted on the BSOA web site for the English Selection Races so everyone knows who is eligible for the select team and how many places they are eligible for.


I'm afraid I don't have Robs kit as he swapped it but I'm pretty sure it said England on it and that was a few years ago. The problem is with the ISF and the host nations who seem to have problems with the concept of England, Scotland and Wales.

[mharky]

Just to clarify, at no point on this thread have the World Schools selectinos be questions. It's the World Class Start ones that AWK and I mentioned.

[Mrs H]

So if you've got a likely lass or lad - pay two friends to start their race (they don't have to finish it) or failing that enter a couple of scarecrows and throw them over the start line!

This is not true as Mrs H knows. .

Oh really? I point you in the direction of B12 Temple Newsam - I'm sure you know what to look for

[awk]

Oh really? I point you in the direction of B12 Temple Newsam - I'm sure you know what to look for

Sorry - can't see it! Please clarify. If it's what I think you are referring to, then you're pointing an accusing finger in the wrong direction.

[Mrs H]

I'm not accusing anyone of anything that's against the rules. I was merely telling Frog how the rules work. Why? what did you think I was doing?

[awk]

Saying that somebody on B12 at Temple Newsam either paid (found, if we allow for hyperbole) two friends simply to make up a team even if incapable of finishing, or chucked a couple of scarecrows over the line. As there's absolutely no evidence of the latter in those results, I can only surmise you mean the former. Now, I can see a situation where somebody who knew nothing about the individuals concerned (from a school not a million miles from here) might draw the wrong conclusions - but that is exactly what they would be, given the two concerned were fairly regular orienteers, competing in YBTs, CSCups and the like.

I didn't think for one moment you were suggesting that they were breaking the rules!

[Sue C]

Back to 2009...

Friendship relay

Won by team including Jonathan Crickmore

2nd place team included Frances Wright

This is a mass start relay for 3 runners, the teams are put together by the organisers, to mix all the competitors up and it requires planning and co-ordination. (It is a bit like a Harris relay) There must be some interesting language combinations in some of the teams!

[mharky]

you mean english?

[jab]

Team results;

English Girls and Boys Select 1 teams (older ones) both got bronze

English Girls and Boys select 2 teams (younger ones) both got gold, Scottish select 2 Girls in 4th

Girls School 2 team: Banchory Academy got bronze with Ulverston Victoria 4th

Girls School 1 team: King Henry VIII were 4th