BOC - an acceptable National standard event!?

[Cave Man]

Am I missing something here? The minutes from Event's Committee dated 17th January now available on the BO web-site state "British Championships 2009 – Hampton Ridge
The event is progressing well and should deliver an acceptable National
standard event." Is "acceptable" good enough? - surely the British Championships should be more than "acceptable"?
Also very confusing - can anyone tell me if M/W18 & 20 Elites (FCC race) are the British Champions at Hampton Ridge or does that honour fall to those running M/W18 & 20 Long on the day? The M/W 21Elite Champs were moved to beginning of May in Forest of Dean but this is the FCC Final - so I am assuming this is not the British Elite Champs for M/W 18 & 20. I can't seem to find a definitive answer!

[mikey]

Am I missing something here? The minutes from Event's Committee dated 17th January now available on the BO web-site state "British Championships 2009 – Hampton Ridge
The event is progressing well and should deliver an acceptable National
standard event." Is "acceptable" good enough? - surely the British Championships should be more than "acceptable"?

Sorry but there is way too much moaning on Nopesport at the moment. It's in the New Forest so everyone knows exactly what they will be getting in terms of TD. If you don't fancy it, don't go.

It may not be Culbin (but then few areas are) but I'll wager it still provides a very enjoyable orienteering exerience and that the best people will still win.

[Cave Man]

Sorry but there is way too much moaning on Nopesport at the moment.

ooops, sorry, I thought that's what forum's were for!

[eddie]

not this one. (one day)

[mikey]

Sorry but there is way too much moaning on Nopesport at the moment.

ooops, sorry, I thought that's what forum's were for!

But moaning on the basis that it might not be very good...

Come on..

[SJC]

can anyone tell me if M/W18 & 20 Elites (FCC race) are the British Champions at Hampton Ridge or does that honour fall to those running M/W18 & 20 Long on the day

From the BOC web site: British Orienteering Championship trophies and medals will be presented to the winners of M/W10-16A, M/W35-70L, M75L, W75 and M/W80. The first three finishers in each class will receive mementoes.

So pretty clear. No British Champions for any 18, 20 and 21 at Hampton Ridge. All will all be decided in the Forest of Dean.

[Scott]

Also very confusing - can anyone tell me if M/W18 & 20 Elites (FCC race) are the British Champions at Hampton Ridge or does that honour fall to those running M/W18 & 20 Long on the day? The M/W 21Elite Champs were moved to beginning of May in Forest of Dean but this is the FCC Final - so I am assuming this is not the British Elite Champs for M/W 18 & 20. I can't seem to find a definitive answer!

It has been confirmed that the British Elite Long Distance Orienteering Championships will take place in conjunction with the “Mike Nelson BOKTrot” National Event on 3 May at New Beechenhurst.
The event will have 18E, 20E and 21E classes to determine British Champions. The 18E and 20E classes will also be the FCC long final. Details of the FCC Final will be posted separately.

Runners who wish to be competitive in the BEOC Long Distance Championships may be restricted in the courses they can run on Saturday 2 May. Details will be announced later.

John Palmer
Chairman
Elite Competitions Group

[Cave Man]

Sorry but there is way too much moaning on Nopesport at the moment.

ooops, sorry, I thought that's what forum's were for!

But moaning on the basis that it might not be very good...

Come on..

anyway - back to my original question - which, no matter how I look at it I find it difficult to interpret as a moan, was ........ drum roll ........

Is "acceptable" good enough? - surely the British Championships should be more than "acceptable"?

Is that not a question rather than a moan?

[SJC]

Is "acceptable" good enough? - surely the British Championships should be more than "acceptable"?

Not so.
The event should meet the standards required of the British Championships.
If it does then that is acceptable.

[Scott]

The minutes from Event's Committee dated 17th January now available on the BO web-site state "British Championships 2009 – Hampton Ridge
The event is progressing well and should deliver an acceptable National
standard event." Is "acceptable" good enough? - surely the British Championships should be more than "acceptable"?

I imagine that if the EC minutes had read "should deliver a brilliant National
standard event" someone would have rushed on here to go "yeah, right ". They can't win.

[Cave Man]

Is "acceptable" good enough? - surely the British Championships should be more than "acceptable"?

Not so.
The event should meet the standards required of the British Championships.
If it does then that is acceptable.

Fair comment - but then again, that's all I ever asked for

[Cave Man]

I imagine that if the EC minutes had read "should deliver a brilliant National
standard event" someone would have rushed on here to go "yeah, right ". They can't win.

but surely that's what the forum is for? - for people to express an opinion? - whether others agree with it or not is their prerogative - surely it's the opinion that matters?

[graeme]

In my opinion acceptable is acceptable. Your interpretation may vary.

From the same document, I'd be more concerned about...

"The organisers have had many challenges to overcome, not least in connection
with the mapping."

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[Scott]

but surely that's what the forum is for? - for people to express an opinion? - whether others agree with it or not is their prerogative - surely it's the opinion that matters?

Opinions, yes; pedantic quibbling over the wording of a set of committee minutes, maybe not.

If the minutes actually expressed a concern that BOC might be "an unacceptable standard National event" then yes, that might be a matter for discussion. As it is, they are about as neutral as is possible - everything is on course. My guess would be that Events Committee are waiting for the event to actually take place before judging it.

[Cave Man]

Opinions, yes; pedantic quibbling over the wording of a set of committee minutes, maybe not.

I'm getting a bit lost here - not unusual - think I'll call it a day and leave the "pedantic quibbling" to the usual click that seems to frequent Nopesport - leaving us infrequent posters feeling not wanted and opinions not valued or required