Woah...you guys are going to have to be hill beasts! How would you train for something like that living in Oxford, out of curiosity?
I love the description - "there are some steep hills on all maps."
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Will? We've got proper fire now!
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Becks - god
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I ran on the classic and relay areas at the Swiss / Italian 6 day in 2001. Lots of Brits were there so plenty of people to speak to about them.
I've scanned my maps and written a few comments.
http://www.interlopers.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/jwoc95/jwoc95.htm
I've scanned my maps and written a few comments.
http://www.interlopers.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/jwoc95/jwoc95.htm
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Godders - blue
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In Cambridge you would find the boggiest softest ground you can, a nice ploughed field where the furrows sink under your feet would be just fine, put on your big studs and run around said field.
any marshes or bogs or deep heather or tussock you have will also work.
Que ?
you might say (particularly if you were Spanish)
well, you see, running up hills isn't always the best training for running up hills.
To run up hills you need to be very fit, any kind of very aerobically fit will do, and you need strength. Strength to lift you body vertically upwards through a prolonged steady push ( as compared with the speedy light pitter patter of a track runner fairy).
Soggy soft ground forces you to do this same action, a prolongued push as you squish the mud and moss before your body begins to lift.
Any terrain forces you to run in this way because it gives and it tips and turns you causing prolonged strides as you compensate for loss of balance etc.
I promise.
My money is where my mouth is.
I didn't only start orienteering properly again this year because I was beginning to miss it, I was also fed up because I was becoming a worse runner, doing crapper in hill races, because I wasn't getting in enough terrain running.
any marshes or bogs or deep heather or tussock you have will also work.
Que ?
you might say (particularly if you were Spanish)
well, you see, running up hills isn't always the best training for running up hills.
To run up hills you need to be very fit, any kind of very aerobically fit will do, and you need strength. Strength to lift you body vertically upwards through a prolonged steady push ( as compared with the speedy light pitter patter of a track runner fairy).
Soggy soft ground forces you to do this same action, a prolongued push as you squish the mud and moss before your body begins to lift.
Any terrain forces you to run in this way because it gives and it tips and turns you causing prolonged strides as you compensate for loss of balance etc.
I promise.
My money is where my mouth is.
I didn't only start orienteering properly again this year because I was beginning to miss it, I was also fed up because I was becoming a worse runner, doing crapper in hill races, because I wasn't getting in enough terrain running.
If you could run forever ......
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Kitch - god
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Dave,
where is like it, from the maps it looks like you could train on a variety of Scotish areas for the right kind of steep hillside running and navigating challenge. plus the steep sides of places like Claif, Breasty Haw, Graythwaite ?
where is like it, from the maps it looks like you could train on a variety of Scotish areas for the right kind of steep hillside running and navigating challenge. plus the steep sides of places like Claif, Breasty Haw, Graythwaite ?
If you could run forever ......
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Kitch - god
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I reckon Eggerslack Woods at Grange-over-Sands for the classic - hilly with limestone. Plus bits of Witherslack.
The southern bit of the JK relay area at Graythwaite would be good too. Slopes of Breasty and Claife too - as long as you can find the runnable bits.
The underfoot conditions are generally nicer than the Lakes / Scotland so you need to find the faster areas.
The southern bit of the JK relay area at Graythwaite would be good too. Slopes of Breasty and Claife too - as long as you can find the runnable bits.
The underfoot conditions are generally nicer than the Lakes / Scotland so you need to find the faster areas.
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if I remember correctly the clasic area had a lot of horse chestnut wood which running wise I guess is similar to beach, very quick somtimes some scragy young stuff, but basicaly just leaf litter underfoot. Can't think of anyware with the same type of quick running but steap hills in the UK.
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ifor - brown
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my question - FCC Final is on Mychett, far from britains hilliest area, why use this as selection for Switzerland?
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rob f - yellow
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the 'relevant terrain' argument comes up again and again year after year.
the best advice that i can give is forget about it. the selection races aren't going to change no matter how much you moan; the reason being that invariably the best people win no matter where the selection race is.
train hard and prepare properly for the selection races that are there - trebor, if mytchett is the area, then you have plenty of relevant terrain to prepare for that in the midlands. as an athlete at the younger end of the JWOC spectrum, perhaps it would be best just to attempt to make the team first instead of worrying about differences between the selection races and the JWOC terrain - once you make the team, the coaching staff and the preparation programme put in place by the aformentioned team should be adequate to prepare you for the challenges ahead.
if you are an established member of the Junior Squad setup, then advance training camps will already have been sorted i guess...
the best advice that i can give is forget about it. the selection races aren't going to change no matter how much you moan; the reason being that invariably the best people win no matter where the selection race is.
train hard and prepare properly for the selection races that are there - trebor, if mytchett is the area, then you have plenty of relevant terrain to prepare for that in the midlands. as an athlete at the younger end of the JWOC spectrum, perhaps it would be best just to attempt to make the team first instead of worrying about differences between the selection races and the JWOC terrain - once you make the team, the coaching staff and the preparation programme put in place by the aformentioned team should be adequate to prepare you for the challenges ahead.
if you are an established member of the Junior Squad setup, then advance training camps will already have been sorted i guess...
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[quote="Kitch"]In Cambridge you would find the boggiest softest ground you can, a nice ploughed field where the furrows sink under your feet would be just fine, put on your big studs and run around said field.
any marshes or bogs or deep heather or tussock you have will also work.
Well, I was planning to go for a run over the fields to Coton today...only trouble is last time I tried that tactic I nearly lost my shoe!
any marshes or bogs or deep heather or tussock you have will also work.
Well, I was planning to go for a run over the fields to Coton today...only trouble is last time I tried that tactic I nearly lost my shoe!
I'm not lost, I just don't know my precise location in the environment...
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