Brit rock

[Ed]

How would one start a music fascism duel I wonder?

For qualification to enter I like the measure of the juxtaposition based on an alphabetical ordering of album collection by artist. Village People sitting next to Wedding Present (the), Joy Division next to Knopfler (Mark) next to Kraftwerk next to Kylie, Nick Cave next to Melanie C, that kind of thing*.

To decide who wins you just need to have the most irrational taste and be most willing to deride anyone else who likes something you don't, however similar it may be to something you do like.

*all examples are non-fictional

[samsonite]

exsqueeze me?

wedding present
joy division
kraftwerk
nick cave

thats too easy. needs to be a tougher choice. ed i think you can set us a decent question.

[brooner]

right can anyone tell me about pearl jam, various people have told me to listen to them numerous times but i've ignored them up till now, got no codes and vs yesterday (cheap cheap cheap amongst a stupidly huge music purchasing splurge - thankfully fopp in aberdeen is closing down so it didn't hurt me too badly) so shall have to see, havent had a chance to listen to them yet so who knows...

selected highlights from the previous 3 pages:
longpigs, hugely underated band, hunt is an amazing songwriter, he is doing some project with howie b and will o'donovan under the name mayonaise which is released soon - should be interesting.
lauren laverne : lovely
wonderstuff: anyone up for a reminiscing journey to the barras to fill their wallets a bit? its cheaper than their recent trips there so i'm tempted
Ash & Idlewild - both pish poor after the mini albums & 1st album, 2nd albums have moments and then pooooooooo since

oh and closely following good music - good books about music, just finished lost in music by giles smith, highly amusing and as good as high fidelity. and autobiograpical too.

[PeterG]

ash ares till a good live band

I wasn't impressed with them in Budapest. They had a can't-be-arsed feel to them which prompted the friend I was out there with to ask me if they were anything like Busted.

wonderstuff

I got The Size Of A Cow on some random cereal packet compilation album and loved it.

[Stodgetta]

Why has nobody mentioned Robbie yet?

[samsonite]

stodgetta, get out of my forum.now.

if i was ash i woudlnt be arsed to perform to some pished up euros in a field either. their still good though.live.not on record.

im up for the wonderstuff for a laugh, but only on the condition that its multiple snakebites all the way.

best books about music i have read are let it blurt the biography of lester bangs and touching from a distance the biography of ian curtis.

as for pearl jam brooner, well everything past the third album with the name i cant remember is pish. ten and versus, the first 2 albums are pretty good in a 90s grunge kinda way, versus has the sublime elderly woman behind the counter in a small town on it. ten has alive which stomps and makes your brain hurt which is always a surefire sign of greatness. oh versus also has daughter and glorified g and other good stuff. ten has that bloody jeremy on it. but the upshot of that is that the jeremy b side is yet another version of yellow leadbetter which has to be one of the best rock songs of all time, its not on an album but its on every bootleg ever and various singles in different forms. the third album has better man on it which is nice. no code, yield and any other stuff they have put out since (i have stopped paying attention) is mindnumbing crap. the never released but so often bootlegged pearl jam unplugged is golden. like actually amazing. i think it has rocking in the free world by neil young on it. its truly great. so go get it off the net.

i used to be a fan. u would never have guessed eh?

[brooner]

touching from a distance is amazing

snakebites: apprently the crags have stopped doing them as they are ytring to get higher class clientele

i shall give vs a try, we shall soon see.

[bendover]

brooner i don't know much about pearl jam but a mate of mine gave me a live version of one of their tunes 'better man' and it was awesome.

[Stodgetta]

When I suggested Robbie, it was tongue in cheek.. although I think he's fab (just ask em, G (who has spent many car journeys trying to educate me and Stodge in current cool music), fatboy or stodge)!

In my defence, I do heve CD's from most of the original shortlist, too....

Why do bands have to be unheard of (or at least be known to a small minority) to be properly cool?

[Nailest]

Coolness is inversely proportional to record sales, don't you know anything

Now, I did intend that to be tongue in cheek, but on preview I wonder if there isn't truth in it after all. I think divisiveness is implicit in the very notion of cool: it establishes an in-group and an out-group. By the time the majority have caught up, the (self-appointed?) cognoscenti have already moved on to the Next Big Thing. No point in having an in-group if everyone's in (on) it.

[rob f]

Ash & Idlewild - both pish poor after the mini albums & 1st album, 2nd albums have moments and then pooooooooo since

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I wasn't impressed with them in Budapest. They had a can't-be-arsed feel to them which prompted the friend I was out there with to ask me if they were anything like Busted.

OK Fine be that way, but ash are greatly inspriring musicians the best songwriter award at kerrangs this year. If You don't like ash your boring..
and busted, that person couldn't know the difference between metallica and westlife

[Nailest]

Your favourite band sucks!

[Simon]

the best songwriter award at kerrangs this year.

Ah yes. A Kerrang award. That proves everything!

[samsonite]

tongue in cheek replies need smilies of the right type to render them tongue in cheek. typed words are rarely capable of tone.

trebor be quiet please. kerrang awards? get tae fuKK.

of course little bands are cooler. because we all want to feel more clever than the next guy, so when every radio listeneing, dido buying office type starts to sing the praises of thaty band who put out some great material 2 years ago or whatever, of course thta band loses their appeal. look at stereophonics, manics, oasis, etc. all had grwat albums, critical acclaim and a bit of support, then suddenly for whatever reason they get big, everyone bangs on about them so they are boring, then they get complacent and put out dross. music that your average office worker listens to is 5hite. i know im going to offend a lot of people but its true. they all think they are cool as fuKK cos they like a flamboyant gay band from new york (scissor sisters) or an "indie" band (keane) or a "rock" band (darkness). next they will kill the magic of the one the only goldie lookin chain. fuKK them all.

here ends todays lesson.

[harry]

a classic music fascist rant

Maybe they actually like that particular music and are not just trying to be cool as f*ck?
Maybe they buy the music to listen to rather than just to talk about in order to impress their friends and coworkers.

But maybe I just say this because I know the music i like isn't very cool.

Music fascists are blind.