Anyone running these races ought to be able to similarly manage to run 21L or whatever the senior equivalents are running on a given day. Were this te case, then young individuals would benefit from competing against the top-class competitors who are not eligible for junior races. Everyone who ran would benefit from the increased banter from the lower ranks. More people from within the same club running the same courses is important for good club spirit. This all makes orienteering better for you and i, as well as for all the masses who can't wait to start.
Similarly get rid of the 20 classes. What a waste of time they turned out to be.
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what rubbish then you get rid of junior orienteering. screw them they pay less money to BOF so get rid. FCC gives something the kids can aim for be it making the final, winning it or coming in the top positions to get to JWOC. the series is the best way of doing it becasue then everyone can track their scores decide which events they are going to go to. Also a few of the races are M20 E which is very close to 21L, there is almost always a race which 20's run with the 21's Cannock last year, the T******hs the year before that, most of the short raes are FCC only so can be planned accordingly.
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i see; you dont.
now may have had a rant or two aimed at the FCC, but this is just because a very good thing has been done slightly wrong. your idea sounds like good racing for me, but i am a top year 20 and i can cope with running 15km on graithwaite, M17s probably cant.
short races should be held in conjunction were ever possible, as they are never normally over 5km and that is fine for everyone.
last year at the cannock weekend the 20s had the option of 20L or 21L, because they planners new that some people kick ass, like rocky and mharky, and some people dont kick ass much as and they had the oppurtunity to run the 20 and still get some points and fight for a place in the final. if you get rid of the junior classes and make it 21L then you will only see a handful of people performing well as the courses would be too tough.
keep it the way it is, combine short races, have the odd classic race against senior, and junior only.
maybe if they were going to make any changes to it they could have a combined 18-20 course prehaps? so just the FCC class. and obviously not have them in nottigham.
now may have had a rant or two aimed at the FCC, but this is just because a very good thing has been done slightly wrong. your idea sounds like good racing for me, but i am a top year 20 and i can cope with running 15km on graithwaite, M17s probably cant.
short races should be held in conjunction were ever possible, as they are never normally over 5km and that is fine for everyone.
last year at the cannock weekend the 20s had the option of 20L or 21L, because they planners new that some people kick ass, like rocky and mharky, and some people dont kick ass much as and they had the oppurtunity to run the 20 and still get some points and fight for a place in the final. if you get rid of the junior classes and make it 21L then you will only see a handful of people performing well as the courses would be too tough.
keep it the way it is, combine short races, have the odd classic race against senior, and junior only.
maybe if they were going to make any changes to it they could have a combined 18-20 course prehaps? so just the FCC class. and obviously not have them in nottigham.
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No chance the FCC should be disbanded but I'm with ic on getting rid of the 20 age group. Down here you get two or three people on a course and it's not really worth it. I don't mind running up but there's a few others in OUOC that don't really fancy running a long W21L and don't fancy a W20S shorter than the W18. And anyways...last year I'd have loved to race against quality talent like Mhairi, Alison et al at every possible opportunity. The worst bit was the Scottish where the course was the same but the class seperated....is there a point at all?
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yeah would make sense for 20s to run the same course as 21s and any who cant handle that can run 21S and still get better competition. any 18s who feel the need for a higher level of competition should be able to handle it as well, and i guess there arn't so many of tem so there wouldnt be too much of a hole left in the 18s course. Also dont be afraid of running up and skipping the fcc race, there are 8 qualifiers and you only need 3wins or 4 consistent results to qualify.
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i agree, its the only way for the top juniors to really test themselvs, and they get plenty of oppurtunity to run 21 at big races. doesnt mean you should remove the 20 age class and create an even bigger drop out at that age than there already is.
the juniors who are at that level can all, and have all, run 21s of their own initiative. which is great, lets keep it like that. im sure there will be plenty more 7 minute scalmpings of the british elite classic champion... mwuahaha
the juniors who are at that level can all, and have all, run 21s of their own initiative. which is great, lets keep it like that. im sure there will be plenty more 7 minute scalmpings of the british elite classic champion... mwuahaha
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like someone said, u only need 3 or 4 decent scores to be in the fcc final, so in the other 20 or so events of the year people run they can run the longest course available.
and it's not always about the people ur competing against. if there's only 3 or 4 people on your course, so what? u know if uve had a good/bad run, what u could've done to improve it.
leave the 20's class as it is, as has already been mentioned, not every1 can run a 21L course, so at least leave them the opportunity to decide for themselves.
and it's not always about the people ur competing against. if there's only 3 or 4 people on your course, so what? u know if uve had a good/bad run, what u could've done to improve it.
leave the 20's class as it is, as has already been mentioned, not every1 can run a 21L course, so at least leave them the opportunity to decide for themselves.
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