Preparing for a restart.
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Re: Preparing for a restart.
You've been able to train outside in groups of 6 (5 + coach) observing social distancing rules for the past couple of weeks. The local athletics, basketball and orienteering clubs have all restarted. I would assume if the activity is registered and led by licensed coaches that its covered by the usual insurance, but not sure.
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Re: Preparing for a restart.
What no one seems to have taken into account is the possibility of virus transmission from blood from scratches etc near control sites. I emailed BOF and they seemed completely unaware of the issue & that this was the reason for the introduction of full body cover.
I'm not a medical doctor or a scientific doctor (or a doctor of any kind)but can only go by history & it's been 'proven' to have happened in the past.
I'm not a medical doctor or a scientific doctor (or a doctor of any kind)but can only go by history & it's been 'proven' to have happened in the past.
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Re: Preparing for a restart.
There were relaxations around extended exercise periods in mid-May that allowed certain sports to start up.
The local sailing club has been open since then. Easy to socially distance outside the boat, impossible inside, so it's singles or helm and crew need to be from the same family. No club events or races.
And as you say rowing has started - should be singles only to comply with social distancing. My son can't get on the water as all the singles go to the top crews and as a J15 there's nothing left. (But, put a crew of 4 in an 8 and you'd be 2m apart or if you have a family of 8 - I guess that would work.)
There's no competitions for either sport at the moment. So they are not doing anything orienteering can't do.
The local sailing club has been open since then. Easy to socially distance outside the boat, impossible inside, so it's singles or helm and crew need to be from the same family. No club events or races.
And as you say rowing has started - should be singles only to comply with social distancing. My son can't get on the water as all the singles go to the top crews and as a J15 there's nothing left. (But, put a crew of 4 in an 8 and you'd be 2m apart or if you have a family of 8 - I guess that would work.)
There's no competitions for either sport at the moment. So they are not doing anything orienteering can't do.
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Re: Preparing for a restart.
Gross wrote:What no one seems to have taken into account is the possibility of virus transmission from blood from scratches etc near control sites.
It isn't a blood borne infection - different diseases have different modes of transmission - and require different measures to prevent transmission.
You are not going to get it by being bitten by a mosquito .
Nor are you going to get hepatitis just by breathing near someone.
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Re: Preparing for a restart.
What no one seems to have taken into account is the possibility of virus transmission from blood from scratches etc near control sites
I'm not a medic either, but I have looked at some of the official literature on transmission, especially relating to sport and exercise. As far as I can see, transmission through blood is not considered an issue, even in contact sports. Presumably this is because as a respiratory infection Covid-19 is not present in blood, at least not at levels that would be important in the context we're talking about (unlike, say, in blood transfusions). I also can't see any reference to sweat as being a transmission vector, as some have suggested here. All the advice is geared towards avoiding skin to skin contact (where feasible), transmission via surfaces, or inhalation of virus breathed out by others.
As I say, I'm no medic, but it seems understandable that BOF staff haven't been briefed about this issue in relation to Covid.
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[pithier version: what pete.owens said]
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Re: Preparing for a restart.
A lot more than 6 people at York Rowing Club!
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Re: Preparing for a restart.
Patrick wrote:What no one seems to have taken into account is the possibility of virus transmission from blood from scratches etc near control sites
... as a respiratory infection Covid-19 is not present in blood, at least not at levels that would be important in the context we're talking about (unlike, say, in blood transfusions).
Patrick
[pithier version: what pete.owens said]
You won’t even get it from a transfusion. See for example Canadian Blood Services https://www.blood.ca/en/research/our-research-stories/research-education-discovery/why-you-wont-get-COVID-19-from-blood
And blood.co.uk says “we do not test for coronavirus because there is no evidence it is transmitted through blood donation”.
As others have said, different diseases, different modes of transmission.
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Re: Preparing for a restart.
Patrick wrote:towards avoiding skin to skin contact
Leg 1 control 1 Jukola
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Gross wrote:Patrick wrote:towards avoiding skin to skin contact
Leg 1 control 1 Jukola
Looking forward to that fun next June in the Arctic Circle...
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Re: Preparing for a restart.
Big Jon wrote:Looking forward to that fun next June in the Arctic Circle
the last one up there was fun... tent full of giant mossies
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Re: Preparing for a restart.
yted wrote:A lot more than 6 people at York Rowing Club!
I think you can have more than 6 people in total but they have to train in groups of 6 or less - if they're following guidelines.
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Re: Preparing for a restart.
buzz wrote:The OOCup in France is going ahead in August after the organisers received permissions from the local authorities. The French government had originally blocked all mass participation events but it seems they have changed their policy - perhaps influenced by pressure from cycling which is huge in France.
Probably still an issue for UK competitors due to the current 14 day quarantine rules but they may be relaxed in time. If you were thinking of going there's a poll on the web site to choose between two dates (the later date would be a more likely possibility).
With the upcoming relaxation of quarantine rules there's a steady flow of UK entrants for the OO Cup. I wonder how many entries they can cope with?
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Re: Preparing for a restart.
You would think that with all the relaxation of lockdown, some more information would have appeared about the restart of orienteering.... surely it's possible, indeed relatively easy, to put on an event under the new July 4th rules?
(York Rowing Club seems to have locked up again... maybe they jumped the gun!).
(York Rowing Club seems to have locked up again... maybe they jumped the gun!).
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Re: Preparing for a restart.
yted wrote:You would think that with all the relaxation of lockdown, some more information would have appeared about the restart of orienteering.... surely it's possible, indeed relatively easy, to put on an event under the new July 4th rules?
(York Rowing Club seems to have locked up again... maybe they jumped the gun!).
I agree. I assume (and hope) that BO are working on producing some guidelines.
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Re: Preparing for a restart.
British Orienteering have some draft guidance on the restart of events ready to go, based on the consultation we ran a few weeks ago. However, "outdoor gatherings" in England after 4th July will still be limited to a maximum of six people from different households. Our current assumption is that this means that we won't yet be able to restart events, but the guidance about what constitutes a "gathering" is frustratingly vague, and British Orienteering - together with a number of NGBs - are pushing DCMS for greater clarity on what this will mean in practice for outdoor sports.
Edit: DCMS did publish sector-specific guidance on Wednesday for visitor attractions and on Thursday for museums, so hopefully some specific guidance on sport will appear soon.
Edit: DCMS did publish sector-specific guidance on Wednesday for visitor attractions and on Thursday for museums, so hopefully some specific guidance on sport will appear soon.
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