New rules on map scales...
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Re: New rules on map scales...
Of course, those Swedish rules also mandate 1:15,000 for M/W18-21 - something which is rarely seen in the UK outside of Level A events, and which even then is occasionally forgotten by the organisers...
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Homer wrote:Not such a good example as the fastest route isn't likely to be far from the straight line in Culbin.
Well it was intended to illustrate that you could have a long leg on an M45-50 course at 1:7,500, but whilst yes, on the day the quickest on the leg went more or less straight, 2nd went off to the left / north and 3rd picked up 7 places (according to winsplits) by going right / south - the planner thinks the quickest route is to go even further right / south at the start of the leg and go round the green rather than through it as Andy did
fwiw the best long route choice leg in an event I did this year (not that I did many )was on a 1:5000 map at Morpeth where the quickest route was ~800m from the red line at one point
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Re: New rules on map scales...
I am definitely detecting a resurgence of good long legs in the UK in the last few years. No longer does every Black course have 35 controls!
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Arnold wrote:6-7 on that Caw map is some leg. I assume right is faster as less climb? Or straight haha! Sorry to derail conversation...
More or less straight - threading through the cols - see Charlie Adams' Route.
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Arnold wrote:I am definitely detecting a resurgence of good long legs in the UK in the last few years. No longer does every Black course have 35 controls!
The issue isn't the total number of controls but the distribution. Too often, 35 controls means 35 legs between 300m and 400m, with in typical southern forests can easily equate to 35 lots of running along the obvious path route to an attack point.
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Reading the rational, the change is more about being inclusive. "Not being able to see the map properly is dull. Many who cant see the map properly, stop orienteering. Therefore it seems great that we have come to this decision and taken a step closer to being a more inclusive sport, one which everyone can be a part of and on equal terms."
It also notes that you can apply for variations to the new rules (for some of the exceptions people have noted here for eg.) Which makes it to me seem a nice and flexible new rule.
Comments made here are by 'diehards' who will carry on O I am sure regardless of these changes. This is aimed at making maps legible to all and helping keep people in the sport. I can imagine with us all spending more and more time behind screens, eyesight may well be poorer by 45.
It also notes maps should continue to be drawn at 1:15 and the large scales, including printing, is a blow up of this.
Open classes can offer maps at different scales. I cant see why this cant be done for age classes too, with permission. (Done at some UK events before - and most take the 'bigger' map!?).
It is good to see a group of 9, of mixed ages, gender and expertise, including sight specialist, has worked on this for quite a while before putting it to Clubs and Regions for voting on. This group was formed after the last couple of years had motions put forward on Map Scales needing to be increased, which were not passed I believe, but feeling was noted and that something needed to be done.
It also notes that you can apply for variations to the new rules (for some of the exceptions people have noted here for eg.) Which makes it to me seem a nice and flexible new rule.
Comments made here are by 'diehards' who will carry on O I am sure regardless of these changes. This is aimed at making maps legible to all and helping keep people in the sport. I can imagine with us all spending more and more time behind screens, eyesight may well be poorer by 45.
It also notes maps should continue to be drawn at 1:15 and the large scales, including printing, is a blow up of this.
Open classes can offer maps at different scales. I cant see why this cant be done for age classes too, with permission. (Done at some UK events before - and most take the 'bigger' map!?).
It is good to see a group of 9, of mixed ages, gender and expertise, including sight specialist, has worked on this for quite a while before putting it to Clubs and Regions for voting on. This group was formed after the last couple of years had motions put forward on Map Scales needing to be increased, which were not passed I believe, but feeling was noted and that something needed to be done.
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Re: New rules on map scales...
Ravinous wrote:It also notes maps should continue to be drawn at 1:15 and the large scales, including printing, is a blow up of this.
This is the key thing. Too many ordinary English areas are now mapped at 1:10, with so much detail squeezed on that they become illegible when reduced to 1:15 - so planners can't realistically offer 1:15 for 18s-21s even if they want to.
I have no objection to more use of 1:7.5 enlargements for older age classes - as long as they are enlargements, and we resist the temptation to find ever more features to populate the extra space on the paper.
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MChub wrote:Keep in mind in Sweden courses for veterans tend to be shorter than in the UK. A typical long course for M45 is 6.5 km.
Is that true? If so, why are our courses longer?
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Crex wrote:MChub wrote:Keep in mind in Sweden courses for veterans tend to be shorter than in the UK. A typical long course for M45 is 6.5 km.
Is that true? If so, why are our courses longer?
Probably because the terrain is physically tougher and more technical therefore slower.
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