WMOC and GPS
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WMOC and GPS
Can someone clarify the rule about GPS watches at WMOC, please. The bulletin says that they can be carried "provided that they have no map display and are not used for navigation purposes". The "no map display" bit is easy - my Forerunner 630 doesn't have that - but how do you prove they're not being used for naviagtion purposes?
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You can't. Competitors are simply trusted not to use them for distance estimation, height gain or whatever.
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Height gain in Denmark - won't help much given the low relief of the areas being used!
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Re: WMOC and GPS
The easiest way to cheat using a gps with a screen is to measure a distance travelled. The solution to avoid getting a DQ is to use a gps with no screen.
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Re: WMOC and GPS
I can see a GPS be useful for Mountain Marathons, but surely on any normal course it’s quicker to just find the control than faff with GPS?
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Arnold wrote:I can see a GPS be useful for Mountain Marathons, but surely on any normal course it’s quicker to just find the control than faff with GPS?
That was my view as well, especially on a sprint course.
A GPS without a screen is clearly fine - I guess that's essentially what the trackers that the elites sometimes carry are - but the type most people use will have a screen.
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Re: WMOC and GPS
roadrunner wrote:Can someone clarify the rule about GPS watches at WMOC, please. The bulletin says that they can be carried "provided that they have no map display and are not used for navigation purposes". The "no map display" bit is easy - my Forerunner 630 doesn't have that - but how do you prove they're not being used for naviagtion purposes?
The bulletin doesn't say that you have to prove you're not using your watch for navigation, so you don't have to.
If you're seen running through the forest paying more attention to your watch than to your map, you might well get challenged. But if you're just wearing a GPS watch, but clearly navigating with your map, then you'll be fine.
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Arnold wrote:I can see a GPS be useful for Mountain Marathons, but surely on any normal course it’s quicker to just find the control than faff with GPS?
GPS is accurate enough that if you have to run, say, 400m along a track before turning off into the forest, you could switch off/plan ahead while keeping an eye on watch for distance. Don't have to pace count or tick off features that way.
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roadrunner wrote:Can someone clarify the rule about GPS watches at WMOC, please.
This is the rule, from the IOF rules.
During the competition the only navigational aids that competitors may use or carry
are the map and control descriptions provided by the organiser, and a compass.
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GPS-enabled devices (watches etc.) can be carried provided that they have no map display and are not used for navigation purposes. However, the organiser has the right to specifically forbid the use of such equipment.
Like spookster says, you're not allowed to be aided by the GPS function of your watch. Or indeed, the time function of your non-GPS watch. If you're caught doing so, you can be DQed, which is about as likely as getting DQed for following or asking someone where you are.
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andy wrote:Arnold wrote:I can see a GPS be useful for Mountain Marathons, but surely on any normal course it’s quicker to just find the control than faff with GPS?
GPS is accurate enough that if you have to run, say, 400m along a track before turning off into the forest, you could switch off/plan ahead while keeping an eye on watch for distance. Don't have to pace count or tick off features that way.
can't you plan ahead whilst simultaneously pace counting? It's not hard if you practice it.
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