British Orienteering Championships website
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Will be happy to share once complete.
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Freefall wrote:Lard if we had added an extra £3-£4 on the entry fee to cover the cost of extra staff and equipment we could have had the prizegiving on Saturday but that would have generated another lot of negative comment.
Um, what? The event infrastructure was entirely in place and being thoroughly used by helpers when I left, and at that point there had already been time to do the prizegiving.
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Routegadget for the relays is now ready for you. (on SOA's RG site)
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I really enjoyed it - definitely worth the trip north. The course at Balmoral felt like a proper adventure, and it's always nice to have an ice-cream van in the assembly area.
The one thing I definitely would have paid a couple of extra quid for is some drinks stations in the forest on Saturday - perhaps at the three crossing points on the central track? As it was, I ended up paying an extra three quid to Ultrasport for an emergency bumbag purchase. But then, I'm not sure anyone expected it to be quite that warm...
The one thing I definitely would have paid a couple of extra quid for is some drinks stations in the forest on Saturday - perhaps at the three crossing points on the central track? As it was, I ended up paying an extra three quid to Ultrasport for an emergency bumbag purchase. But then, I'm not sure anyone expected it to be quite that warm...
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Truly great weekend - thanks to all involved.
Relay rules. Athletes in neighbouring clubs can join together to make an elite team. The same cannot be said for the junior classes. Is that the case? If so, what’s the logic?
Relay rules. Athletes in neighbouring clubs can join together to make an elite team. The same cannot be said for the junior classes. Is that the case? If so, what’s the logic?
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Freefall wrote:Because we had to move the race arena on Saturday afternoon/evening we needed time and there would have been unacceptable delays had we staged prizegiving on the Saturday.
I can imagine that during the planning of the logistics this could be a solution but I can think of at least one alternative... How about asking for some volunteers to help out either with the moving or event the prize-giving itself? If you had explained the situation and the options and asked for volunteers then if you don't get them and have to revert to moving the prize-giving then at least everyone knows it was through their own sheer laziness.
Orienteers are generally a pretty helpful bunch, however much we moan on nopesport, so I would like to think you would have got the volunteers you needed.
Still loved the orienteering on both days...
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housewife wrote:Relay rules. If so, what’s the logic?
This rule clarifies that the ad hoc class winners are not British Relay Champions...
2.1.2 To be eligible to be British Relay Champions, (all classes except for mixed ad hoc and junior ad hoc) all members of a team must ...
So this rule does not apply to ad hoc classes...
2.1.5 To be eligible for British Relay Championship trophies and medals, all the members of a relay team must ...
So this is a list of unnecessarily sad children...
Junior ad hoc Results wrote: n/c 65:54 Int Team CompassPoint S Matthew Ross/Thomas Ross/Ben Squire
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That's a blatant misuse of the word "clarifies" Graeme!
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graeme wrote:So this is a list of unnecessarily sad children...Junior ad hoc Results wrote: n/c 65:54 Int Team CompassPoint S Matthew Ross/Thomas Ross/Ben Squire
Would just like to clarify that as the member of the computing team who clicked "n/c", this was as I was advised to by an adult member of INT.
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Freefall wrote:Because we had to move the race arena on Saturday afternoon/evening we needed time and there would have been unacceptable delays had we staged prizegiving on the Saturday. As it was we completed the main parts of the move and set-up by 21.45 hrs just before dark and then spent a further 90 minutes on the Sunday morning. There was a real risk that if prizegiving was on Saturday we would not have had enough time on the Sunday so it might have led to delays in the starts and a later finish. Course combinations,gaffles and map standards are outside the remit of the Event Coordinator (I think)
It cant have helped that you were also multitasking with the IOF - we do put a lot of effort onto such a few people in orienteering - your tireless efforts (and broad shoulders) are much appreciated.
SIman wrote:Routegadget for the relays is now ready for you. (on SOA's RG site)
Hadn't realised till now just how off the wall the gaffles were after the spectator control. Slightly consoled to see I had the long one on M short.
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Thanks Andypat - it was quite a week. The event service costs were around £6,000, approximately 20% of the budget. In addition to providing ground protection mats (not needed); crowd barriers; marquees and the finish gantry they provided the power systems (which also powered the ice cream van) and the very clear P.A. system They provided 4 vehicles, one to move miscellaneous equipment to and from Glenmore Lodge; one to move equipment including the HERAS; one for the marquees and one to pull the generator. Volunteers were fully involved in tasks at the race arena including receipt and sorting of trophies and medals (a very major task); map collection bags; taping out run-ins; enquiries and entry at the event; download; pasting of results; signage; parking; routes to starts; manning starts etc. There was no slack time in my opinion to carry out a Saturday prizegiving, and virtually all Scottish clubs made their contribution to the event. Without Limelight event services I really cannot see how we could have delivered an event of such a standard. Every volunteer involved was very grateful for the services provided by Limelight and think they were worth every penny.
The other consideration is water - a few people commented on this. This is a difficult area. First of all who is the water for - Elite runners only or do you make it available to anyone? What happens if the water is for the Elite only but other thirsty competitors see the water station and decide to drink so that by the time some of the Elites come past there is nothing left? Do you provide bottled water, when we are trying to reduce plastic waste. What about bottles taken by competitors and discarded en route (it was noted by some control collectors that there were gel packets left near control sites - totally unacceptable). Do we dispense water from large containers into cups? I drink out of streams on mountain marathons but is everybody happy to take the risk? Again we need lots of plastic cups, a volunteer to dispense and a means to collect discarded cups. Where do we fill the water containers, is the water supply safe e.g. back of the cricket pavilion (who tests and deciodes?) and how many water containers do we need. Do we need to hire another vehicle to access water points?
The other consideration is water - a few people commented on this. This is a difficult area. First of all who is the water for - Elite runners only or do you make it available to anyone? What happens if the water is for the Elite only but other thirsty competitors see the water station and decide to drink so that by the time some of the Elites come past there is nothing left? Do you provide bottled water, when we are trying to reduce plastic waste. What about bottles taken by competitors and discarded en route (it was noted by some control collectors that there were gel packets left near control sites - totally unacceptable). Do we dispense water from large containers into cups? I drink out of streams on mountain marathons but is everybody happy to take the risk? Again we need lots of plastic cups, a volunteer to dispense and a means to collect discarded cups. Where do we fill the water containers, is the water supply safe e.g. back of the cricket pavilion (who tests and deciodes?) and how many water containers do we need. Do we need to hire another vehicle to access water points?
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Freefall wrote: The other consideration is water - a few people commented on this.
We seem to have a budget line for elite water at the middles, which seems pointless to me. I assumed it was in the rules, but I can't actually find it now.
But if you're racing hard for 90+ minutes its pretty essential to have some water, I think you should provide it or make it very clear that people need to carry it. Other countries don't seem to find it "a difficult area". At the JK the elites got handed a bottle at the finish, which was welcome but a bit pointless.
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graeme wrote:Freefall wrote: The other consideration is water - a few people commented on this.
We seem to have a budget line for elite water at the middles, which seems pointless to me. I assumed it was in the rules, but I can't actually find it now.
But if you're racing hard for 90+ minutes its pretty essential to have some water, I think you should provide it or make it very clear that people need to carry it. Other countries don't seem to find it "a difficult area". At the JK the elites got handed a bottle at the finish, which was welcome but a bit pointless.
Its an old argument - can see both sides. I was absolutely gubbed at the end of my 80min run and fairly daft sprint finish. Had no water left after 2 hours helping parking cars (for the privilege of which I had to get up at 6am and drive 3.5 hours...) in the sun and there was a huge queue at the various food outlets due to the weather - decided to head into Ballater to get something to drink but would really have appreciated a drink somewhere along the line. Something at the finish would have been much appreciated - although again appreciating the logistics of several hundered bottles of water means more volunteer effort.
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graeme wrote:We seem to have a budget line for elite water at the middles, which seems pointless to me. I assumed it was in the rules, but I can't actually find it now.
Are you planning for it to be a WRE? The IOF rules insist on at least one water point on a middle, regardless of whether or not anyone will actually use it:
19.8 If the estimated winning time is more than 30 minutes, refreshments shall be
available at least every 25 minutes at the estimated speed of the winner.
19.9 At least pure water of suitable temperature shall be offered as refreshment. If
different refreshments are offered, they shall be clearly marked.
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Thanks to all the organisers , planners and helpers for a great weekend. Two contrasting but excellent venues.
One little issue, expecting to run the middle leg in the mixed adhoc I was actually given the short TD3 map and my last leg runner got the middle TD5 map, she had no problem with it as she is a competant orienteer but it could have been as issue if someone just capable of orange had the same experience. mind you I was not really aware that i was on a TD3 course No wonder scottish youngsters are so good
Now to the important stuff, when will I be on the tv/ ( although being filmed several times I expect to end up on the cutting room floor , or the digital equivalent , as insufficiently photogenic/athletic looking, although I did try to look as if i was intelligently reading the map as I staggered across the bridge on Sat.)
One little issue, expecting to run the middle leg in the mixed adhoc I was actually given the short TD3 map and my last leg runner got the middle TD5 map, she had no problem with it as she is a competant orienteer but it could have been as issue if someone just capable of orange had the same experience. mind you I was not really aware that i was on a TD3 course No wonder scottish youngsters are so good
Now to the important stuff, when will I be on the tv/ ( although being filmed several times I expect to end up on the cutting room floor , or the digital equivalent , as insufficiently photogenic/athletic looking, although I did try to look as if i was intelligently reading the map as I staggered across the bridge on Sat.)
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