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Citing the relay course lengths isn't one of them though.
British Orienteering Championships website
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There is now accommodation available (B & B) at Cranford Guest House, Braemar (www.cranfordbraemar.co.uk) for the Friday and Saturday nights. There’s also a vacant double room at Aberdeen Airport Travelodge on the Sunday night.
Please let folks know.
Please let folks know.
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So why are we plebs having to make do with laser printed maps while the elites get offest litho?
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If its a WRE you have to have offset litho (and a map bag - luxury!), which is so much easier to read. Offset litho for all would be great, but presumable expensive.
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British Champs rules say
6.4.3 All maps must be offset litho printed unless agreed otherwise.
So somebody must have agreed otherwise. It wasn't me.
6.4.3 All maps must be offset litho printed unless agreed otherwise.
So somebody must have agreed otherwise. It wasn't me.
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Maybe it's so that they can use the larger scales.
Balmoral is lovely but not super-detailed. If the map was too difficult to read, the controller would send the mapper back to make it clearer. In fact, I've run on BigJon's Balmoral map at 1:15000, and it was fine (full disclosure: I'm M55 with terrible eyesight, so I shouldn't expect to be able to do this).
I'd prefer 1:10000, or 1:7500, but that's different from the criticism of the mapper* required to enact Appendix 4. How to achieve that within the rules?
The wriggle, used here and again at BMOC, is that by using laser printing the map does become too difficult to read, so you are allowed to use bigger scales without accusing the mapper of doing a bad job. Although removing clarity with laserprinting and then restoring it by rescaling doesn't help much, it does shut up the people who lobby for larger scales.
Here on nopesport, I can say the rules are daft and you should always use a scale between A4 and A3. But as a Grade A controller (thank you gross) it's my job to know and enact them as written. Applying an appropriate level of sanity-restoring loopholery
* who happens to be bigger than me...
BOF rules wrote:Appendix 4 (Mapping): "The larger of the permitted scales may be used if the Planner and Controller of the event agree that the map at the smaller scale is too difficult for competitors in the relevant class to read while running."
Balmoral is lovely but not super-detailed. If the map was too difficult to read, the controller would send the mapper back to make it clearer. In fact, I've run on BigJon's Balmoral map at 1:15000, and it was fine (full disclosure: I'm M55 with terrible eyesight, so I shouldn't expect to be able to do this).
I'd prefer 1:10000, or 1:7500, but that's different from the criticism of the mapper* required to enact Appendix 4. How to achieve that within the rules?
The wriggle, used here and again at BMOC, is that by using laser printing the map does become too difficult to read, so you are allowed to use bigger scales without accusing the mapper of doing a bad job. Although removing clarity with laserprinting and then restoring it by rescaling doesn't help much, it does shut up the people who lobby for larger scales.
Here on nopesport, I can say the rules are daft and you should always use a scale between A4 and A3. But as a Grade A controller (thank you gross) it's my job to know and enact them as written. Applying an appropriate level of sanity-restoring loopholery
* who happens to be bigger than me...
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graeme wrote:But as a Grade 1 controller
Thought we stopped being called that years ago? Not even sure I was 'grade 1' when I controlled the British at Cannock
Go orienteering in Lithuania......... best in the world:)
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housewife wrote:Offset litho for all would be great, but presumable expensive.
With large print runs I'm not sure there is a huge difference in printing costs. Certainly not compared with £27 entry fee.
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It's also not a WRE (unfortunately )
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With 33 different courses and relatively small numbers the costs are very prohibitive - it costs nearly twice as much to print the few litho maps as all the other maps. We did everything to keep costs down and would be happy enough to share our finance figures. We might just make a small surplus but I mean small.
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Change of tack - anyone want to put their neck on the line and predict Elite course medallists?
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No-one rushing to predict!
To help, here is the On The Red Line preview of the 21E races....
https://www.ontheredline.org.uk/article ... 18-preview
To help, here is the On The Red Line preview of the 21E races....
https://www.ontheredline.org.uk/article ... 18-preview
Why did I do that...
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Gross wrote:graeme wrote:But as a Grade 1 controller
Thought we stopped being called that years ago? Not even sure I was 'grade 1' when I controlled the British at Cannock
A grade 1 "something" for sure
Orienteering - its no walk in the park
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Jon X wrote:No-one rushing to predict!
Yeah, well, SIentries was down and we don't all have access to the start list.
Anyway, I'd like to see Edinburgh-based Claire and Sasha do well, so the graeme kiss of death goes to Spongey and Megan.
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Big Jon wrote:Change of tack - anyone want to put their neck on the line and predict Elite course medallists?
Sasha from Spongey and Kris
Jess from Jo and Megan
Elsewhere I predict W40L will be won by a former W21E Long/Middle/Night/Sprint champion and M55L will be won by someone whose surname starts with "H"
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