British Night Championships
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British Night Championships
Anyone else looking forward to this ? Reviewing my last visit I managed to lose touch with the map twice , so am both apprehensive and excited by the challenge. Just in case I have bought another headlight with more duration as last year it didn't last the course. Also a bit puzzled by the low numbers entered even in the usually well populated older classes, is it really that fearsome? Actually could probably get a better position in M35 even if last as so few entered compared to M65.
- johnrobinson
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Re: British Night Championships
Actually looking again at the entries, most of the usual culprits are in evidence.
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Re: British Night Championships
Actually looking again at the entries, most of the usual culprits are in evidence.
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Re: British Night Championships
Too far for me to travel despite great area.
However next year British Nights is on the most technical area in the UK - Muir of Dinnet. Will be a superb event!
However next year British Nights is on the most technical area in the UK - Muir of Dinnet. Will be a superb event!
- Big Jon
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Re: British Night Championships
Thinking about this again, I'm not sure I'd want to run the British Nights on a really technical, low visibility area? I love technical areas as I'm a better navigator than runner, but at night don't you need to have some sort of handrails (paths, ridges etc) to make it vaguely fair? Or a million people around you like at Jukkola...
I guess we'll see how Merthyr Mawr stacks up at night this year!
On a separate note, Big Jon I guess one Scottish 6 Day & one British Long/Relay Champs to organise in 12 months wasn't enough for you?!
I guess we'll see how Merthyr Mawr stacks up at night this year!
On a separate note, Big Jon I guess one Scottish 6 Day & one British Long/Relay Champs to organise in 12 months wasn't enough for you?!
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Re: British Night Championships
Arnold wrote:Thinking about this again, I'm not sure I'd want to run the British Nights on a really technical, low visibility area? I love technical areas as I'm a better navigator than runner, but at night don't you need to have some sort of handrails (paths, ridges etc) to make it vaguely fair? Or a million people around you like at Jukkola...
I guess we'll see how Merthyr Mawr stacks up at night this year!
On a separate note, Big Jon I guess one Scottish 6 Day & one British Long/Relay Champs to organise in 12 months wasn't enough for you?!
I'm not really involved in the British (well, organising starts), was one of 200+ helpers at 6-days and am (not yet) involved in British nights...
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Re: British Night Championships
Actually it started a few years ago when Maroc got permission to map Balmoral and Muir of Dinnet (helped by a large grant from Sport Scotland Major Facility Fund - hard work for some club members but enough money to make it worth the effort). Once we had these areas it seemed criminal not to use them for major events, hence Race the Castles in 2014, Scottish Champs 2016 and British Champs 2018, all on Balmoral and British Nights on Muir of Dinnet (we won't get permission for huge numbers at one event - eg 6-Days or British Long).
Just letting everyone else enjoy the sort of areas we are blessed with week in week out here in Deeside
Just letting everyone else enjoy the sort of areas we are blessed with week in week out here in Deeside
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Re: British Night Championships (Kitten not Lion)
I enjoyed my course (#6) but it was not the challenge I hoped. Sadly Merthyr is no longer to be feared - now with fences and plenty of paths and little copses to aid navigation.
The view down from the plateau was striking - 200 little lamps bobbing along in all conceivable directions
The planner did a good job given how the area is now and I had 11 controls out in the dunes, a couple were trivial and several more were along line features and then close to good attack points - if you could go in a straight line for between 20 and 150m... no trouble,.
Contrast this with the M13 course from 1976 - I had been orienteering just over a year and would have been 14.
MerthyrMawr1976 by David Williams, on Flickr
Click on the map fragment to see the whole course. It was a day race but M13 and every single leg was a real challenge TD 5or 5*.
Here are some bits from Saturday's race
MerthyrMawr2018 by David Williams, on Flickr
MerthyrMawr2018 by David Williams, on Flickr
I think Kenfig migh now be more of a challenge.
The view down from the plateau was striking - 200 little lamps bobbing along in all conceivable directions
The planner did a good job given how the area is now and I had 11 controls out in the dunes, a couple were trivial and several more were along line features and then close to good attack points - if you could go in a straight line for between 20 and 150m... no trouble,.
Contrast this with the M13 course from 1976 - I had been orienteering just over a year and would have been 14.
MerthyrMawr1976 by David Williams, on Flickr
Click on the map fragment to see the whole course. It was a day race but M13 and every single leg was a real challenge TD 5or 5*.
Here are some bits from Saturday's race
MerthyrMawr2018 by David Williams, on Flickr
MerthyrMawr2018 by David Williams, on Flickr
I think Kenfig migh now be more of a challenge.
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Re: British Night Championships
You've kept the map for 42 years?
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Thanks to SBOC for a good event. The weather was great and the cold didnt bother too much once you had started.
I enjoyed the course, even though I decided control#6 was enough after 83mins, 180' errors dont help in the dark (I looked at my compass many times during the 180' error and couldn't understand why I was still on top of the plateau - until I got to a path I had already been along twice!)
Would be a very nice area to revisit during daylight.
I enjoyed the course, even though I decided control#6 was enough after 83mins, 180' errors dont help in the dark (I looked at my compass many times during the 180' error and couldn't understand why I was still on top of the plateau - until I got to a path I had already been along twice!)
Would be a very nice area to revisit during daylight.
- SteveE
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Re: British Night Championships
Mrs H wrote:You've kept the map for 42 years?
I've got almost every map from the start of my O-ing (1977)... don't you?
- Big Jon
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Re: British Night Championships
I haven't even got the one from last week I like each area to be a lovely surprise when I pick up the map on the start line.
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We have every map since David stared in 1971! It runs to cupboards full! I's happily get rid of quite a lot!
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Re: British Night Championships
I enjoyed my course (#6) but it was not the challenge I hoped. Sadly Merthyr is no longer to be feared - now with fences and plenty of paths and little copses to aid navigation.
Don't knock It , without those fences i expect I would still be out there and as for the paths...is it on the map and which copse am i running past?
Don't knock It , without those fences i expect I would still be out there and as for the paths...is it on the map and which copse am i running past?
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