Coaching duties took me to the routegadget page of the DVO event at Shining Cliff, I thought the courses looked excellent - particularly Short Brown....
http://www.derwentvalleyorienteers.org.uk/results/rg2/#109&course=2
Looks like great use of the area - wish I'd decided to go - the pre-race details were perhaps a bit too honest about the brambles, the course did a good job of avoiding the worst bits (at least according to the map.
Congrats to the planner - couldn't find their name on the web site. The new map looks a lot clearer too.
What was it like to run?
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Shining Cliff
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Re: Shining Cliff
Richards Parkin planned as well as producing the new map.
It was good. The brambles have grown worse (as everywhere) but I didn't find them too bad. We have worse in South Yorkshire.
A few more routes on Routegadget would be good to compare. Particularly the long leg which was well conceived.
It was good. The brambles have grown worse (as everywhere) but I didn't find them too bad. We have worse in South Yorkshire.
A few more routes on Routegadget would be good to compare. Particularly the long leg which was well conceived.
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Re: Shining Cliff
Homer wrote:Richards Parkin planned as well as producing the new map.
No, according to the Final Details, Paul Addison planned, on Richard's new map.
Homer wrote:It was good. The brambles have grown worse (as everywhere) but I didn't find them too bad. We have worse in South Yorkshire.
A few more routes on Routegadget would be good to compare. Particularly the long leg which was well conceived.
Most Long courses these days just seem to be Middle distance planning extended over a longer distance. So it was good to see that we had a good long leg at Shining Cliff, with at least 4 different route choices.
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Re: Shining Cliff
Spookster wrote:...
Most Long courses these days just seem to be Middle distance planning extended over a longer distance. So it was good to see that we had a good long leg at Shining Cliff, with at least 4 different route choices.
There were some good long distance legs on the DEE Middle on the same day.
Too bad I over-simplified the long leg on Geen by heading to a control [that I'd already visited] that was 1/2 way between the controls at either side of the long leg - so I went 9->7->10 and hence deny myself a variety of path running options further away from the straight line.
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Gee, thanks. I did plan the courses, along with Paul, and I don't think he'll mind if I take credit for the long legs. I proposed them.
The first thing I do as a planner is look for where the area can accommodate a long route choice leg. The relocating of parking/assembly from the ridge down to the mill by the A6 really helped open up the area. So we had the opportunity for an over/around scenario. Initially, I had envisaged an extra crossing point, but on the first test run I saw the farmer repairing the wall at that location. We thought it best to leave it. Next time perhaps.
One thing we might have done is provide maps in the start lanes which showed the overprinted uncrossable boundaries and crossing points: some people failed to see them in the 'heat' of the race.
The bramble was worse than it was when the survey was made. It had a good year.
The first thing I do as a planner is look for where the area can accommodate a long route choice leg. The relocating of parking/assembly from the ridge down to the mill by the A6 really helped open up the area. So we had the opportunity for an over/around scenario. Initially, I had envisaged an extra crossing point, but on the first test run I saw the farmer repairing the wall at that location. We thought it best to leave it. Next time perhaps.
One thing we might have done is provide maps in the start lanes which showed the overprinted uncrossable boundaries and crossing points: some people failed to see them in the 'heat' of the race.
The bramble was worse than it was when the survey was made. It had a good year.
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Re: Shining Cliff
Homer wrote:A few more routes on Routegadget would be good to compare. Particularly the long leg which was well conceived.
I thought your route over the top looked the best with a good approach to the control and lots of chances to push hard or plan ahead.
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Re: Shining Cliff
The brambles were definitely worse in places than implied by the map. I thought that I could map read my way across the slope (south of #121) east of the open field but it was just solid brambles and very slow going. Brambles do seem to be spreading in our forests.
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