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The greatest result of a generation
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Re: The greatest result of a generation
Well he did win the UKOL so he must therefore be the best orienteer in the country.
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Homer - diehard
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Re: The greatest result of a generation
Dream big Mark, anything is possible!
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Little Hoddy - green
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Re: The greatest result of a generation
anything is possible - if you can get yourself in a race with someone who did poorly in their only previous ranking event...
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greywolf - addict
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Re: The greatest result of a generation
Yep,
first time I've seen an event where you had to run brown to get ranking points.
first time I've seen an event where you had to run brown to get ranking points.
- Marco Polo
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Re: The greatest result of a generation
It seems the revised system got coded wrongly. Being fixed now. It might have helped if the people doing the fixing were allowed to see the source code.
Ben's score should be 1374, since you didn't ask.
edit. Which would put him precisely one point ahead of mharky in the overalls
Ben's score should be 1374, since you didn't ask.
edit. Which would put him precisely one point ahead of mharky in the overalls
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Test races at SprintScotland (Alloa/Falkirk) and Euromeeting (near Stirling).
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Re: The greatest result of a generation
graeme wrote:It seems the revised system got coded wrongly. Being fixed now. It might have helped if the people doing the fixing were allowed to see the source code.
(Ben's score should be 1374, since you didn't ask)
I guess that helps to explain how Rhona scored more points on Short Green than any woman on any course ever has previously at our Burbage event a couple of weeks ago.
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Re: The greatest result of a generation
graeme wrote:edit. Which would put him precisely one point ahead of mharky in the overalls
Dammit!
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mharky - team nopesport
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Re: The greatest result of a generation
As graeme said - it's being fixed now. And we'll look at the Burbage results as well.
Whilst we're at it, are there any other obviously anomalous scores floating about? If so, we'll try to recalculate and reload them.
Whilst we're at it, are there any other obviously anomalous scores floating about? If so, we'll try to recalculate and reload them.
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Re: The greatest result of a generation
When was the code updated incorrectly?
Do all of last weekends results need to be reloaded/recalculated, or does it go further back than that?
Do all of last weekends results need to be reloaded/recalculated, or does it go further back than that?
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Re: The greatest result of a generation
DJM wrote:any other obviously anomalous scores floating about?
From what Greywolf tells me this might not be due to a coding error, but I'm sure 1315 pts for coming 8th on a Light Green is not what the ranking list was intended to output:
https://www.britishorienteering.org.uk/index.php?pg=results&eday=67268&results=67268&course=9008&
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Re: The greatest result of a generation
According to the BOF news item 8 September, the following change was made to the ranking system:
The calculation is now run in 2 rounds, the first with all runners contributing to SP, the second run through then excludes any runners who are more than 100 points off their average when calculating SP. Ranking points awarded are then calculated for all eligible competitors.
If as people are suggesting, the algorithm is correct, can someone confirm whether, if after the first run through, and there are less than 10 eligible competitors left, whether the course is then excluded for ranking purposes? If not, the whole course might be ranked, on the basis of a handful of competitors that just happened to "fit" on the first run through.
The calculation is now run in 2 rounds, the first with all runners contributing to SP, the second run through then excludes any runners who are more than 100 points off their average when calculating SP. Ranking points awarded are then calculated for all eligible competitors.
If as people are suggesting, the algorithm is correct, can someone confirm whether, if after the first run through, and there are less than 10 eligible competitors left, whether the course is then excluded for ranking purposes? If not, the whole course might be ranked, on the basis of a handful of competitors that just happened to "fit" on the first run through.
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Re: The greatest result of a generation
Firstly, we believe that the algorithm does have a bug in it. There's also a tightening up of the specification which needs to be done.
Yes, I can confirm that, even if there are fewer than 10 remaining after the first run through, the points calculation is still made.
can someone confirm whether, if after the first run through, and there are less than 10 eligible competitors left, whether the course is then excluded for ranking purposes? If not, the whole course might be ranked, on the basis of a handful of competitors that just happened to "fit" on the first run through.
Yes, I can confirm that, even if there are fewer than 10 remaining after the first run through, the points calculation is still made.
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Re: The greatest result of a generation
Sunlit Forres wrote:DJM wrote:any other obviously anomalous scores floating about?
From what Greywolf tells me this might not be due to a coding error, but I'm sure 1315 pts for coming 8th on a Light Green is not what the ranking list was intended to output:
https://www.britishorienteering.org.uk/index.php?pg=results&eday=67268&results=67268&course=9008&
Oh no - if thats the case then Ewan would has got a far higher score than I've ever achieved. I know he's going well but even so...
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Re: The greatest result of a generation
I am sure the odd looking high score for 8th place on light green would not have happened if under 16s (M/W16-) were allowed ranking points.
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