4-tier event structure defined

[Wayward-O]

BOF have now published a document defining the different levels in the new 4-tier event structure.

Personally, I believe that BOF have done a good job, but I'd be interested to hear how the proponents of a 4-tier event structure view the forthcoming reality and whether they feel it addresses their original concerns.

[andypat]

I think it looks fair enough.

For me the main downside of the 3 tier system was a lack of clarity regarding the level of event leading up to events. Events often appeared in press as one level and then changed to another, or event level wasnt advertised on pre-publicity. Sometimes bigger events seemed to be registered as local to avoid levys.

I'd like to see some more info about levys to ensure we dont have similar issues with the new system. Pleased that ranking list will take from all bar the 4th level of event which should see it more inclusive hopefully.

[Scott]

BOF levies have been the same for all levels of event since Jan 2009, so they weren't a factor in deciding which level to register an event at under the 3-tier system, and (at least for 2011) they won't play a role under the 4-tier system either.

[andypat]

Thanks Scott - I think I should have been aware of that from previous info on here.

[pete.owens]

It looks pretty good as far as it goes. However, I think there are a number of issues that are not addressed because different disciplines need vastly different quality specifications. This is implicit is the wording of some of the clauses.

It might be a good idea to produce a quality specification for each discipline to set out more explicitly the expectations of a top-notch sprint/middle/long/urban... event at level B.

[AlanB]

Good that all but level D will be included in the rankings, which, for me would include South of Scotland O League fixtures.

Don't suppose there is any chance of retrospectively including those results going back to 01/01/2010?

[pete.owens]

It shouldn't make any difference to which events are included in the rankings as the requirements for level C pretty much the same as those for level 2 in the existing system.

[redkite]

looks a good start to me and shouldn't cause too much difficulty for clubs

[Clive Coles]

Had a quick skim read of last nights posting on the BOF web site regarding the new 4 tier structure.

It seems that our Association Fixtures Secretary will be able to authorise level C events ~ only level A & B events have to go any where near the National Fixtures group. That's what I and a number of advocates of the current 3 tier did at least agree on.

I guess SUFFOC will opt to place CATI's, the Summer series, and their AGM event in level D and that the rest will just be run under level C guidelines.

Cannot see much point in running anything in East Anglia under level B as level C events will now be ranked. It will now be up to each club to review which of their currently registered high profile regional events should be elivated to level B status. Will be interersting to see the new guidelines.

Level C however could accommodate most of our Sunday morning fixtures in the region and also our EA league programme. Believe it or not I think I am happy !

[SJC]

It shouldn't make any difference to which events are included in the rankings as the requirements for level C pretty much the same as those for level 2 in the existing system.

Except that a lot of events that were perfectly good enough to use for the ranking list were registered at level 3. The new structure should remove this problem.

[AlanB]

It shouldn't make any difference to which events are included in the rankings as the requirements for level C pretty much the same as those for level 2 in the existing system.

Am I misunderstanding the situation? In this part of Scotland, South of Scotland O League fixtures have almost always been Local events - level 3 under the current 3 tier arrangement - therefore not being included in the rankings.

Under the new 4-tier they will surely be classified as level C and, therefore, ranking events.

[andy]

Under the new 4-tier they will surely be classified as level C and, therefore, ranking events.

yes, as they should be

[Scott]

Am I misunderstanding the situation? In this part of Scotland, South of Scotland O League fixtures have almost always been Local events

As pete.owens says, the Level C criteria are much the same as the current Level 2 (Regional) criteria. The intention of the 3-tier scheme was that events like the SoSOLs would be registered at Level 2, but for various reasons (including the original Level 2 criteria, which were pretty different), this has only been happening in some parts of the country.

Hopefully the new system - which I have to agree looks pretty good - will fix that.

[Homer]

Personally, I believe that BOF have done a good job, but I'd be interested to hear how the proponents of a 4-tier event structure view the forthcoming reality and whether they feel it addresses their original concerns.

My thoughts exactly.
The middle tier has been split into two. The main factors differentiating these tiers is the provision of an assembly area and pre-entry only.
Was it worth all the hassle?
Not to mention all the extra work for BOF employees and volunteers...

[Clive Coles]

Was it worth all the hassle?

Yes Homer .... yes yes yes

Just a shame we had to jump through this hoop to get a structure that fits our requirements