Can't decide whether they are good to train to or not.
1.What are peoples views on them?
2.which ones are/not good?
3.Also how do people use them to train with?
Don't know whether to get one or not...mmm decisions decisions.
Heart Rate Monitors
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oooh graphs!
I love mine (polar s610i), you get pretty graphs and stuff
interval training within set heart rates
orienteering course
I think if used properly and systematically as part of your training then they will help you but I keep getting ill so haven't had a decent chance to find out to be honest. You really need to plan everything out more and stick to it in order to make sure you are doing the right amount of training at the right levels to benefit. One day it will all come together...
interval training within set heart rates
orienteering course
I think if used properly and systematically as part of your training then they will help you but I keep getting ill so haven't had a decent chance to find out to be honest. You really need to plan everything out more and stick to it in order to make sure you are doing the right amount of training at the right levels to benefit. One day it will all come together...
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brooner - [nope] cartel
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They work, but only if you use them systematically.
610 is a good basic model with all you will probably ever need, although
the 710 has altimeter which can help show route choice, the training stress. it also comes with a bike comupter if you bike alot
but then the 810 records RR intervals (the time between heart beats). Really cool tool but only really if you have a physiologist to help interpret it. Awesome to monitor training adaptations and overtraining type tool.
610 is a good basic model with all you will probably ever need, although
the 710 has altimeter which can help show route choice, the training stress. it also comes with a bike comupter if you bike alot
but then the 810 records RR intervals (the time between heart beats). Really cool tool but only really if you have a physiologist to help interpret it. Awesome to monitor training adaptations and overtraining type tool.
- run like you stole someth
further to mharky's message,
what kitchen said and all were agreed on was that effective training only occours between certain heart rate levels, your aerobic and anaerobic threshholds, aerobic being where your body starts producing more lactate than your liver can cope with and anaerobic being about where you die (theres a more physiological definition!)
but, to train within these limits you need to know where they are which means an expensive session with a sport scientist punishing you on a treadmill and taking blood samples every 4 minutes or so.
what kitchen said and all were agreed on was that effective training only occours between certain heart rate levels, your aerobic and anaerobic threshholds, aerobic being where your body starts producing more lactate than your liver can cope with and anaerobic being about where you die (theres a more physiological definition!)
but, to train within these limits you need to know where they are which means an expensive session with a sport scientist punishing you on a treadmill and taking blood samples every 4 minutes or so.
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Using a Heart Rate Monitor can be useful to help you gauge whether you are running aerobically, although the limit will vary sometimes considerably from person to person.
Using the conversation test is probably the most accurate method. If you are running aerobically then you should be able to carry on with a normal conversation whilst running. If you can talk too much you need to speed up a little, if you are a little out of breathe and cannot talk normally, you need to slow down. A cheaper way?
Aerobic threshold runs are hard work and should be hard work but you should not run so hard that you get out of breath or feel like you have to stop. A good way think about aerobic threshold runs is that they should be hard and tough, but you know that if you needed to you could produce a good sprint finish!
During training i think you should not be looking at your HR monitor or watch for HR and pace, as this usually results in altering your speed (because of your preconceived ideas about how fast or slow you are). It is important to listen to your body to establish the pace, and not a HR monitor or watch.
Ofcourse, an opinion!
Right i'm off training again in the sweet forests of Göteborg.
p.s. Last night went a night run with Jamie and Ed, Ed getting several motivational compliments. I can announce that Ed is now preparing for Japan 2005.
Using the conversation test is probably the most accurate method. If you are running aerobically then you should be able to carry on with a normal conversation whilst running. If you can talk too much you need to speed up a little, if you are a little out of breathe and cannot talk normally, you need to slow down. A cheaper way?
Aerobic threshold runs are hard work and should be hard work but you should not run so hard that you get out of breath or feel like you have to stop. A good way think about aerobic threshold runs is that they should be hard and tough, but you know that if you needed to you could produce a good sprint finish!
During training i think you should not be looking at your HR monitor or watch for HR and pace, as this usually results in altering your speed (because of your preconceived ideas about how fast or slow you are). It is important to listen to your body to establish the pace, and not a HR monitor or watch.
Ofcourse, an opinion!
Right i'm off training again in the sweet forests of Göteborg.
p.s. Last night went a night run with Jamie and Ed, Ed getting several motivational compliments. I can announce that Ed is now preparing for Japan 2005.
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zen baby, yeah!
it would be nice if we could all reach a zen-like state of awareness on every run we go on where we know exactly how hard we're going and dont need to rely on an impure lump of plastic strapped round our chests to see how hard we're going. but fact is that you're heart rate isn't going to lie. just as your resting/wkaing hr is affected by your health your running hr will show just how hard you're pushing, whereas your feeling can be clouded by issues of lack of sleep or being 'tired' from working or going to uni all day...
having said that, i dont actually use a hrm.
i am zen.
having said that, i dont actually use a hrm.
i am zen.
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heart rate monitors
Brooner,heart RM are an amusing gadget but your heart rate can be affected by a lot of things(tiredness,illness,state of alcoholic poisoning,arousal etc) as well as exertion.Don't stick rigidly to graphs and tables but listen to what your body is telling you.
The reason you keep getting ill is you are training too hard as evidenced by your interval session.Ever heard of Chronic fatigue syndrome(ME)? Not nice.
Ease off until you have had a good few weeks without illness and build up again slowly.You may find getting more sleep and proper food(like wot your Mum makes) will help.
Fogies might sound boring but they sometimes talk sense.
The reason you keep getting ill is you are training too hard as evidenced by your interval session.Ever heard of Chronic fatigue syndrome(ME)? Not nice.
Ease off until you have had a good few weeks without illness and build up again slowly.You may find getting more sleep and proper food(like wot your Mum makes) will help.
Fogies might sound boring but they sometimes talk sense.
- peter haines M45 fogie
cheers peter, i've replied to your other post.
please register and keep the advice flowing, we need more 'old fogies' on the boards to get involved and teach us young whippersnappers a thing or two.
please register and keep the advice flowing, we need more 'old fogies' on the boards to get involved and teach us young whippersnappers a thing or two.
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