inov8 'o' shoes
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Re: inov8 'o' shoes
Bit of a bump, but what do people make of the various Innov8 shoes a year+ down the line?
Have they improved any? Have the studs longevity been improved?
I am loathe to buy another pair of Jalas blacks after the last pair lasted just 9 events and just over 100km before upper & sole separated, Integrators did the same in the past so I'd rather not go there either, which doesn't really leave much!
Have they improved any? Have the studs longevity been improved?
I am loathe to buy another pair of Jalas blacks after the last pair lasted just 9 events and just over 100km before upper & sole separated, Integrators did the same in the past so I'd rather not go there either, which doesn't really leave much!
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Re: inov8 'o' shoes
Got the flyroc 310's.
suffered once from the heel problem on a very dry/hot day, but since then have done several very long stints without problem. I 've been much more careful on sock/lacing since then.
I am not comfortable in them for long steep contour traverses
Have used them for hiking when boots are ott.
Unlike other trainers and 'o' shoes they do not cause toe nail problems
No problems with the soles, but thats cos the moulding is ridges I suspect.
Had to sew up the fabric quite a few times with nylon thread, but worth the time
The key seem to be in the correct sock and lacing.
They make me feel very light-footed and I love that. I use them exclusively to train in woodland and grassland environments, and they are ok on soft tracks. I suffer far fewer stumbles and ankle twistings in them
I took all my running shoes for a physio test and the therapist said that my best gait was in the flyrocs.
Too many road trainers make me feel like I've got elephant feet. this is probably because my feet are long and thin and have very pronounced arches
But for tough terrain O, I'll stick to the VJ's with some extra arch support and suffer the toe nail consequences
suffered once from the heel problem on a very dry/hot day, but since then have done several very long stints without problem. I 've been much more careful on sock/lacing since then.
I am not comfortable in them for long steep contour traverses
Have used them for hiking when boots are ott.
Unlike other trainers and 'o' shoes they do not cause toe nail problems
No problems with the soles, but thats cos the moulding is ridges I suspect.
Had to sew up the fabric quite a few times with nylon thread, but worth the time
The key seem to be in the correct sock and lacing.
They make me feel very light-footed and I love that. I use them exclusively to train in woodland and grassland environments, and they are ok on soft tracks. I suffer far fewer stumbles and ankle twistings in them
I took all my running shoes for a physio test and the therapist said that my best gait was in the flyrocs.
Too many road trainers make me feel like I've got elephant feet. this is probably because my feet are long and thin and have very pronounced arches
But for tough terrain O, I'll stick to the VJ's with some extra arch support and suffer the toe nail consequences
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Re: inov8 'o' shoes
It really does depend on the shape of one's feet.
I find that they (Roclite 315) fit my forefoot a treat without restricting my toes (no black nails and no blisters) however they don't fit at the back so I get horrible blisters on the back of my heel. I reckon that this is because only the top of the rear of the shoe is cushioned, whereas further down inside the heel, there is little cushioning to the heel counter, so my heel just slides around. This seems to be a common build feature across the range.
I can improve matters by paying careful attention to socks and lacing but I can still only wear them for 1/2 hour tops - but they do feel great for that time.
Unfortunately, I shall not be buying any more Inov's.
I find that they (Roclite 315) fit my forefoot a treat without restricting my toes (no black nails and no blisters) however they don't fit at the back so I get horrible blisters on the back of my heel. I reckon that this is because only the top of the rear of the shoe is cushioned, whereas further down inside the heel, there is little cushioning to the heel counter, so my heel just slides around. This seems to be a common build feature across the range.
I can improve matters by paying careful attention to socks and lacing but I can still only wear them for 1/2 hour tops - but they do feel great for that time.
Unfortunately, I shall not be buying any more Inov's.
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Re: inov8 'o' shoes
I have a pair of Mudroc 290s (bought for fell running) which were very hard on my heels after anything over 30 minutes. However I still choose the as my footwear for Borrowdale fell race in August 2007 due to their grip. After 4 hours they made a right mess of my feet and I didn't wear them again until about two months back after a bit of advice, which was to steam the the heel cups and then put them on so they mould to your feet better. Anyway I've found them better following this and have managed an hour with no problems so far.
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Re: inov8 'o' shoes
Update managed 70 odd minutes ok before having problem again on a shorter run they were a problem from about 20 minutes in strangely it was running in the same location so it wasn't even a different terrain.
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Re: inov8 'o' shoes
I have improved matters by adding a leather heel gripper, doubling up thin socks, taping my heels and lacing really tightly. They feel fantastic, and no blisters since, even up to 75mins - a bit snug though!
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Re: inov8 'o' shoes
I'm onto my 2nd lot of mudclaw 270s. I'd forgotton that the first pair initially gave me blisters (they are too narrow in the MTP joint area for me) and that they only became comfortable after the material had torn a bit and then were fine until they fell to bits. Same problem 2nd time round. The blistering persiod only lasts a couple of weeks though and once worn in they are more comfortable for long periods than my jalas jukolas which are great for short races but caused agony when I wore them to put out controls for our long o. They didn't like doing lots of contouring on fairly firm terrain. I was tempted to run back barefoot.
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Re: inov8 'o' shoes
Bumping a long-dormant thread, but I'm too stingy to start a new one...
Oroc 280. imo best dobs on the market. I even have a clean pair for playing 7-a-side on wet hockey carpet: the dobs give perfect grip without any chance of hurting either the surface or an opponent. But does anyone else hate the thin laces? With cold fingers it's like tying rusty cheesewire. Then 20 minutes into the race, turns out that you didn't manage to pull them tight enough, the shoe comes off in a muddy swamp, you have to start again, and tape is worse than useless - won't stick to them and just gets in the way.
I have one pair where I've given up and replaced them with toggled elastic. Anyone else have the same problem?
Oroc 280. imo best dobs on the market. I even have a clean pair for playing 7-a-side on wet hockey carpet: the dobs give perfect grip without any chance of hurting either the surface or an opponent. But does anyone else hate the thin laces? With cold fingers it's like tying rusty cheesewire. Then 20 minutes into the race, turns out that you didn't manage to pull them tight enough, the shoe comes off in a muddy swamp, you have to start again, and tape is worse than useless - won't stick to them and just gets in the way.
I have one pair where I've given up and replaced them with toggled elastic. Anyone else have the same problem?
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Re: inov8 'o' shoes
Yes great shoes, but let down by the laces.
I have a pair of oroc and xtalon, both with thin laces. The first race with the x-talon the laces came undone twice (30 seconds lost). Since then I went to a trick from my old triathlon days and used lace locks, they may still come a little loose but very easy to retighten.
With the Orocs I have been experimenting with tying laces in reef knot and then thread through gaiter eyelets and then tying again - seems to work.
I have a pair of oroc and xtalon, both with thin laces. The first race with the x-talon the laces came undone twice (30 seconds lost). Since then I went to a trick from my old triathlon days and used lace locks, they may still come a little loose but very easy to retighten.
With the Orocs I have been experimenting with tying laces in reef knot and then thread through gaiter eyelets and then tying again - seems to work.
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Re: inov8 'o' shoes
Bumping a year old thread, than starting another.
What socks are people wearing with Inov8 shoes?
Its really hit & miss with hot spots/blisters on the heels. One event it can be fine, one event it can rip them both apart.
Any recommendations, apart from throw them in the bin.
Fantastic Grip...however enough scars on my heels..
What socks are people wearing with Inov8 shoes?
Its really hit & miss with hot spots/blisters on the heels. One event it can be fine, one event it can rip them both apart.
Any recommendations, apart from throw them in the bin.
Fantastic Grip...however enough scars on my heels..
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Re: inov8 'o' shoes
As i'm from a hiking background i wear two pairs of socks, a thin liner for moisture wicking and a set of running socks. this seems to work. my inov8s (280s) are now bedded in and don't give me too much heal trouble.
i've just got a 2nd pair and like the first the toe rand comes undone after one trip through th LEI undergrowth - however, it's shoegoo to the rescue here.
i've just got a 2nd pair and like the first the toe rand comes undone after one trip through th LEI undergrowth - however, it's shoegoo to the rescue here.
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Re: inov8 'o' shoes
Maybe flogging a dead horse here... but I've been orienteering in an old pair of Jalas Blacks for about 4 or 5 years now (not regularly) when conditions are really wet or slippy. These are too hard to run in drier conditions I think, and awful when I choose track/road options in a race.
More often I race in Adidas Adizero XT4s (aggressive light trail shoes) when conditions are drier. I've found these to be great for trail and terrain running, even managing mountain marathons in them. I've had 3 pairs now (two as trail shoes, one for orienteering) and they have never given me problems with blisters even once. They just don't grip in wet in forests. I bought them as replacement to the long forgotten Adidas Swoops which were perfect in every way.
I noticed that Inov-8 Mudclaws are now selling online for around £65 and I'm tempted. Are they worth the gamble for regular orienteering shoes? I've never worn Inov-8s before, still causing folk blisters?
What about the O-Roc 280/340s? Would they be a better choice? They are way more expensive at around £85 online.
VJ Bold or Integrators still seem to cost a fortune, I can't justify spending over £100 on orienteering shoes as I'm not getting to as many races as I used to.
Any advice?
More often I race in Adidas Adizero XT4s (aggressive light trail shoes) when conditions are drier. I've found these to be great for trail and terrain running, even managing mountain marathons in them. I've had 3 pairs now (two as trail shoes, one for orienteering) and they have never given me problems with blisters even once. They just don't grip in wet in forests. I bought them as replacement to the long forgotten Adidas Swoops which were perfect in every way.
I noticed that Inov-8 Mudclaws are now selling online for around £65 and I'm tempted. Are they worth the gamble for regular orienteering shoes? I've never worn Inov-8s before, still causing folk blisters?
What about the O-Roc 280/340s? Would they be a better choice? They are way more expensive at around £85 online.
VJ Bold or Integrators still seem to cost a fortune, I can't justify spending over £100 on orienteering shoes as I'm not getting to as many races as I used to.
Any advice?
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Re: inov8 'o' shoes
I have never got the heel blisters from Mudclaws that I got from the old orange Roclites, although the material on the heel did disintegrate very quickly as on the Roclites - I just put ankle tape on the inside of the shoe which works well as a replaceable layer of material.
I too used to love Swoops and I still have 2 pairs (1 still unworn) but I was prone to calf injuries in them which I do not get from the Mudclaws. I love my Mudclaws, however I have been seduced by MoreMiles Cheviot 2 which are 1/2 the price and do the job just as well
I too used to love Swoops and I still have 2 pairs (1 still unworn) but I was prone to calf injuries in them which I do not get from the Mudclaws. I love my Mudclaws, however I have been seduced by MoreMiles Cheviot 2 which are 1/2 the price and do the job just as well
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