Hi,
I have been Orienteering for a couple of years now. I started on Orange courses and then onto Light Green.
My problem is that I am self taught and I think i need help progressing (I am running out of Orienteering books to read!)
I have 'promoted' myself onto Green with some success, but I am M40 and not entirely sure what level I should be on. At my age should I be on Blue and Brown?
Are there any training events or courses that would help me develop?
I am willing to travel and pay to find the right course.
Any advice would be really welcome.
Thanks,
Woody
Coaching help
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Re: Coaching help
Are you a member of a club Woody?
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Mrs H - god
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Re: Coaching help
I am a club member, however, although this gives me reduced entry fees and events to attend, there aren't any training events/sessions. Or none that I've been aware of for a M40!
This is my first club, so my experience is limited. Would a club have training or coaching sessions normally?
I'm not expecting a club to provide my training, I fully expect to get off my back side and find some, but I have not found anywhere!
I am also a bit confused about other aspects of Orienteering events such as different Event classes etc. I had hoped that a coaching/training session would answer these questions or I will be overloading this forum with questions!
Woody
This is my first club, so my experience is limited. Would a club have training or coaching sessions normally?
I'm not expecting a club to provide my training, I fully expect to get off my back side and find some, but I have not found anywhere!
I am also a bit confused about other aspects of Orienteering events such as different Event classes etc. I had hoped that a coaching/training session would answer these questions or I will be overloading this forum with questions!
Woody
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Re: Coaching help
Well obviously I don't know which club you are a member of - but there should be a designated club coach who should give you some help and guidance if you make it known that you want some. Otherwise I should jut ask away - there's bound to be someone round here who knows the answer (or who thinks they do)
As for what course you should run - you should run what you enjoy - and if a green is about the right amount of time for you then carry on. There are guidelines on the BOF website here which give the suggested courses for various age groups (long and short) at various sized events. so you can see what experienced orienteers of your age are doing.
I certainly think you sound as if you want to improve and need someone to help you with it. Perhaps offers might be forthcoming if you were to indicate which part of the country you live in. Anyway - good luck.
As for what course you should run - you should run what you enjoy - and if a green is about the right amount of time for you then carry on. There are guidelines on the BOF website here which give the suggested courses for various age groups (long and short) at various sized events. so you can see what experienced orienteers of your age are doing.
I certainly think you sound as if you want to improve and need someone to help you with it. Perhaps offers might be forthcoming if you were to indicate which part of the country you live in. Anyway - good luck.
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Re: Coaching help
Mrs H
Thanks for your advice - and you have hit on my issue. I'm a M40 running a M70 course!!!
I am in the Surrey/Berkshire area and your comments do make sense. Maybe someone can point me in the right direction (!) of a club or coach that I could contact in this area.
I am willing to travel if there are any "camps" or weekend training events?
Thanks again.
Woody
Thanks for your advice - and you have hit on my issue. I'm a M40 running a M70 course!!!
I am in the Surrey/Berkshire area and your comments do make sense. Maybe someone can point me in the right direction (!) of a club or coach that I could contact in this area.
I am willing to travel if there are any "camps" or weekend training events?
Thanks again.
Woody
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Re: Coaching help
Well don't go over the top and launch yourself straight into brown - if you want to run against your own age group remember M40 short course is blue - try that - i can assure you there is plenty of competition to be had with fellow short course runners.
Now - come on you experienced surrey/Berkshire orienteers - send Woody a private message and offer to talk through a few courses etc with him - you've got a keen and willing recruit here! I only wish he lived closer to HOC land so that I could get him some help from our coaches
Now - come on you experienced surrey/Berkshire orienteers - send Woody a private message and offer to talk through a few courses etc with him - you've got a keen and willing recruit here! I only wish he lived closer to HOC land so that I could get him some help from our coaches
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Re: Coaching help
The British Army OC run training camps for beginners/intermediate and advanced levels at Longmoor and I believe many of the courses are open to civilians. See http://www.baoc.org.uk
Bear in mind two things
- your local club coach might not read nopesport or the coaching forum.
- most of your local club wont be qualified coaches but many will be willing to help you, perhaps by shadowing you for a few controls at the end of an event (coaching qualifications not needed for this). If you don't know many in your club, the best way to get to know people might be to offer help at an event.
Bear in mind two things
- your local club coach might not read nopesport or the coaching forum.
- most of your local club wont be qualified coaches but many will be willing to help you, perhaps by shadowing you for a few controls at the end of an event (coaching qualifications not needed for this). If you don't know many in your club, the best way to get to know people might be to offer help at an event.
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Re: Coaching help
The Scottish Orienteering Association run training weekends in Aviemore for adults. They're called Improver weekends and the 2011 dates are:
9-10 April
4-5 June
19 July
1-2 October
Details: http://www.scottish-orienteering.org/na ... -schedule/
9-10 April
4-5 June
19 July
1-2 October
Details: http://www.scottish-orienteering.org/na ... -schedule/
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Re: Coaching help
Our club has a coach and he is currently on his UKCC level 2 coaching award, and me and my 2 eldest step kids are having training. I think he's definately got his work cut out with me.
Seriously after events stick your route on routegadget (if you remember where you have been) and then look at other peoples routes and see where others went.
i I often look at the course above and below to see where I would have gone and then compare it. Members of the club who i am friends with often email me with comments if I ask them too.
Also lots of websites have hints and tips. I was amazed when I discovered I already did some of the things without knowing it.
Seriously after events stick your route on routegadget (if you remember where you have been) and then look at other peoples routes and see where others went.
i I often look at the course above and below to see where I would have gone and then compare it. Members of the club who i am friends with often email me with comments if I ask them too.
Also lots of websites have hints and tips. I was amazed when I discovered I already did some of the things without knowing it.
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Re: Coaching help
Carol McNeill's new book has pretty good stuff on technique, talking you through how to tackle different types of leg with lots of (full-colour!) map samples.
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Can I also suggest that the huddle in the car park afterwards discussing "Why the map is wrong" "Why control X was in the wrong place" and "did you get caught by the X between Y & Z" can be of great benefit.
As is a chat with the planner along the lines of "What route did you think we'd use here?" - they find that useful in planning later events (well I do)
As is a chat with the planner along the lines of "What route did you think we'd use here?" - they find that useful in planning later events (well I do)
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Re: Coaching help
If you like gadgets and have headless chicken moments of 20mins+ then a GPS watch is good to analyse your run afterwards. I'm constantly amazed at the damage you can do drifting off a bearing!
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Re: Coaching help
Thanks for all the advice and comments.
I have taken SeanC's advice and booked training with BAOC.
It's not until May but I will report back on how I found it for others in need such as I!
Woody
I have taken SeanC's advice and booked training with BAOC.
It's not until May but I will report back on how I found it for others in need such as I!
Woody
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Re: Coaching help
I assume that's the AOA "intermediate" course? Out of interest how much does it cost?
I had a look at the course description - looks really good. The only problem for civilians is that it's during the working week. I wonder how much demand there would be for this sort of course (at beginners, intermediate or advanced level) at a regional level if it was at the weekend, or over a couple of weekends? The national orienteering centre in Scotland is a long way - probably too far for many down south.
I had a look at the course description - looks really good. The only problem for civilians is that it's during the working week. I wonder how much demand there would be for this sort of course (at beginners, intermediate or advanced level) at a regional level if it was at the weekend, or over a couple of weekends? The national orienteering centre in Scotland is a long way - probably too far for many down south.
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Re: Coaching help
The AOA do run intermediate courses on weekends -- one or two days
but you are strongly advised to attend both.
I don't have a weekend schedule to hand but you could e-mail the
listed person on the BAOC website for the mid-week courses and ask
what the schedule is, and if there are any free places.
I know of a number of individuals (civilian and military) who have attended both the
week-long and the week-end courses and found them exceedingly good (even better
than Mr Kipling's cakes)
but you are strongly advised to attend both.
I don't have a weekend schedule to hand but you could e-mail the
listed person on the BAOC website for the mid-week courses and ask
what the schedule is, and if there are any free places.
I know of a number of individuals (civilian and military) who have attended both the
week-long and the week-end courses and found them exceedingly good (even better
than Mr Kipling's cakes)
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