head torches?
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head torches?
i havnt used a head torch for training for at least two years, i just run using my natural night vision, which is far superior and cheaper to any curry related paraphenalia.
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rocky - [nope] cartel
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1) Running the dark with a map without a headlamp is completly useless because you can't see anything! OK, when there's a full moon it will be (a bit) bright but what happens when it gets cloudy???
2) Join the argument in Reviews you'll get a fairly good idea...
2) Join the argument in Reviews you'll get a fairly good idea...
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SUMMARY
Petzl Tikka Plus
Advantages:
1) Lightweight: only 78 grams including batteries
2) Battery life way longer than for a halogen bulb: Halogen bulbs last only a couple of hours, petzl tikka plus can last a minimum of 80 hours
3) Three distinct brightness settings plus flash
4) Light doesn't dim when the batteries get low
5) (Debatable) Brighter than a halogen bulb? (No more discussion please)
6) Cheaper than a halogen bulb? Petzl costs around £20/25
Disadvantages:
1) Those who prefer wearing a conventional headlamp and battery pack would not opt for the Petzl.
2) Range not as long as a halogen bulb-15/20m
Silva M1
Advantages:
1) Preference for conventional headlamp users
2) (Debatable) Brighter than a halogen bulb? (No more discussion please)
3) Longer range than a Petzl - 75m?
Disadvantages:
1) Halogen bulbs only last for a couple of hours - what happens if you're on a long course?
2) Battery pack loads approx. extra 150g on to you
3) Light dims when the battery gets low
A summary of your summary:
Pretzl
1) yes they are light weight, bowever as it is on an elastic strap the weight is solely supported by points of contace, that means on your forehead and at the back. witrh the big mummas the wieight of the lamp is spread over tyou entire head thanks to the holder/strap/pseudo-hat style thing. battery pack is insignificant. supersaint weighs a stone heavier than me, it think one little battery pack aint going to make a difference.
2) very true, you get lots of life, but if i am on and orienteering course for more than 2 hours i dont deserve to have continues light. big mummas are specifically for orienteering so only need to last that long. and then you charge it up over night and its ready for training the next day. pretzls have long life, perfect for long night adventure races and stuff like that.
3) why do you need to have different settings??? whack it up to full and there you go.
4)nor does the big mummas thanks to the Nimh batteries, well... they go from full brightness to nothing in a bout a minute, but which time you have been out far to long and should cut your losses and kill yourself.
5)no dabate, LEDS are no where near as bright as halogen, you are seriously deluding yourself on that one.
6) your damn right they are cheaper, just means your gonna have to train hard to get into J/WOC to get a special bargain price, or do lots of paper rouds
big mumma
1) the range is 250m according to the SILVA website
2) battery weight; done that
3)battery life; how long do you go night training for??? put it on the 10W option if you think your giong to be out for ages, that is still brighter than pretzl and lasts for about 4hours, if you are trianing more than that at night you mst be bjørnar himself.
If the pretzl Tika plus was a better headlamp then surely everyone would be wearing it at the TioMila and Jukkola right??? well i seem to remeber that the only people with them were either not running or silly white british people. Out of the top 10 at tio i can safely say none of them used a pretzl. big mummas all they way coz they are the best for orienteering
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mharky - team nopesport
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1) What r u doing at uni? (If u r)
2) Heavy battery packs: Supersaint yes would be able to cope with it, but what about the M12's?
3) Petzl's (unconfirmed) have only been out for short time
4) Most (not all) of the good night orienteers nowadays have probably been orienteering since they could walk. They were first introduced to the halogen bulbs and have stuck with them because they found them best (before petzl's came out)
5) I'd rather be out for 2 hours and lost than be out for 2 hours, lost and nothing to see in the dark with except the moon and the stars (if your lucky)
2) Heavy battery packs: Supersaint yes would be able to cope with it, but what about the M12's?
3) Petzl's (unconfirmed) have only been out for short time
4) Most (not all) of the good night orienteers nowadays have probably been orienteering since they could walk. They were first introduced to the halogen bulbs and have stuck with them because they found them best (before petzl's came out)
5) I'd rather be out for 2 hours and lost than be out for 2 hours, lost and nothing to see in the dark with except the moon and the stars (if your lucky)
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I'm sutdying Swedish at the University of Dalarna, Borlänge campus.
What A-Levels are you doing?
As far as i know M12s are not allowed to go night orienteering in GBR, the youngest class is M16 at a night race, so i think they can deal with it.
well apparently they invented the headlight so it must have come out first... not that they invented the headlamp though.
your argument about people sticking with halogens is a bit of a kevin king one, they stick with them coz they are better. go to a night race and see the difference.
if you spend 4 hours on a course you probably shuoldnt be doing night orienteering, or not the light green anyway
What A-Levels are you doing?
As far as i know M12s are not allowed to go night orienteering in GBR, the youngest class is M16 at a night race, so i think they can deal with it.
Petzl headlamps - official site
Inventor of the headlamp
well apparently they invented the headlight so it must have come out first... not that they invented the headlamp though.
your argument about people sticking with halogens is a bit of a kevin king one, they stick with them coz they are better. go to a night race and see the difference.
if you spend 4 hours on a course you probably shuoldnt be doing night orienteering, or not the light green anyway
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