What Is The Greatest Orienteering Area
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well i like the choices, but i have to agree with whoever it was on the first page who gave all the scotish areas. It sucks living in birmingham coz although im not that good an orienteer, i enjoy a nice technical area and to say there are few round here to compare to any scotish site would be an understatement, which is a damn shame. I liked lossie and penhale, forests and sand dunes as far as the eye can see.......
Good suggestions Rob!
Good suggestions Rob!
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just read treoborts reply to godders list of spraff tastically good areas, i think that lad is messed up, he methodically goes through and slates the top areas in Britain,
Areas are best when they are tough and technical.
none of those areas you put on the poll are that great.
one day young lad you will learn the error of your ways.
Areas are best when they are tough and technical.
none of those areas you put on the poll are that great.
one day young lad you will learn the error of your ways.
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I can't quite understand why, some of you believe that just by being in Scotland makes an area great. We all like different challenges. I for one prefer woodland with contours spurs etc, particulary beech woodland, but scots pine isn't too bad. I like to be able to run and orienteer, not mountain climb or fight off undergrowth in it's many different forms. I really dislike any deeply tussocked area as I carry a knee injury and have suffered ankle injuries at Dunalistair along with a large number of other competitors. I also dislike bracken particularly head high, but don't like dead bracken as it tracks up.
Therefore as far as Scottish areas go, Lossie and Culbin are good and I enjoyed Rannoch. Cawdor wasn't too bad either.
But Graythwaite supercedes all of these. Newborough is pretty good and I enjoyed Penhale. But for pleasurable running I like Burnham Beeches and area of the New Forest and Forest of Dean. However these all have too many paths and tracks to be real challenges.
I think one of the most challenging Scottish areas which also offers decent runnability must be Docharn. It was my first experience of a badge course and certainly sticks in my memory. The best runnability was the otherside in Deishar, an area I'd love to return to some time.
Therefore as far as Scottish areas go, Lossie and Culbin are good and I enjoyed Rannoch. Cawdor wasn't too bad either.
But Graythwaite supercedes all of these. Newborough is pretty good and I enjoyed Penhale. But for pleasurable running I like Burnham Beeches and area of the New Forest and Forest of Dean. However these all have too many paths and tracks to be real challenges.
I think one of the most challenging Scottish areas which also offers decent runnability must be Docharn. It was my first experience of a badge course and certainly sticks in my memory. The best runnability was the otherside in Deishar, an area I'd love to return to some time.
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Anonymous wrote:I like to be able to run and orienteer, not mountain climb or fight off undergrowth in it's many different forms.
Anonymous wrote:But Graythwaite supercedes all of these.
Uh? Graythwaite was real good but it was really really tough with mountain climbing and fighting of undergrowth.
Scotland rocks (mostly - I will concede there may be a couple of bad areas). Only problem is it's 250 miles from here
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the duncan wrote:just read treoborts reply to godders list of spraff tastically good areas, i think that lad is messed up, he methodically goes through and slates the top areas in Britain,
Areas are best when they are tough and technical.
none of those areas you put on the poll are that great.
one day young lad you will learn the error of your ways.
hmmm I'm Trebor, and u tell me that lossie, bigland, pembrey and penhale aren't technical somewhere
- and i won't even start with graythwaite
just because your'e a top UK orienteer doesn't mean you can over estimate areas
(i'm not a top orienteer but i may have that problem so...)
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Guest,
Having been born and raised in the big smoke that is the west midlands, and learnt the way of the compass and map on cannock chase, brown clee, sutton park, the wreken, I can tell you that its a fact that the areas in scotland are far more plentyful and almost incomparable to those avalable down south, up here there is something for everyone, no jk's in cumber parks, no regions which cant find areas worthy of a JK.
It's now at the point that when i go home I look at the events my parents are going to and rarely get excited about going out, as most of the time its no challenge at all, and I'm not even a half decent orienteer!
Just because its scottish dosent make it a great area, but its a good start.
Having been born and raised in the big smoke that is the west midlands, and learnt the way of the compass and map on cannock chase, brown clee, sutton park, the wreken, I can tell you that its a fact that the areas in scotland are far more plentyful and almost incomparable to those avalable down south, up here there is something for everyone, no jk's in cumber parks, no regions which cant find areas worthy of a JK.
It's now at the point that when i go home I look at the events my parents are going to and rarely get excited about going out, as most of the time its no challenge at all, and I'm not even a half decent orienteer!
Just because its scottish dosent make it a great area, but its a good start.
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Iain wrote:Guest,
I can tell you that its a fact that the areas in scotland are far more plentyful and almost incomparable to those avalable down south, up here there is something for everyone, no jk's in cumber parks, no regions which cant find areas worthy of a JK.
Iain, can you just remind me where the JK-quality areas are in eastern Scotland, say in the 150 miles between Perth and the English border.
I fancy a run and I seem to have missed them.
Much of the alleged "quality" of Scottish areas comes from the willingness
of clubs to travel long distances from their base to use the best areas. This is hugely helped by the system of SOA-owned maps, so when clubs get allocated an event, they have a broad choice of areas to work with. In 15 years, I can't remember INT staging a badge event within an hour's drive of the planner or organiser's house.
Graeme
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Test races at SprintScotland (Alloa/Falkirk) and Euromeeting (near Stirling).
Test races at SprintScotland (Alloa/Falkirk) and Euromeeting (near Stirling).
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andy wrote:Graeme wrote:In 15 years, I can't remember INT staging a badge event within an hour's drive of the planner or organiser's house.
Glenearn and Berryknowe?
im sure there was one at archerfield as well, but the points still valid.
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andy wrote:Graeme wrote:In 15 years, I can't remember INT staging a badge event within an hour's drive of the planner or organiser's house.
Glenearn and Berryknowe?
Maybe, but not at the speed I drive
Classy area though - amusing to see a reigning Swedish elite champion
making a parallel error en route to #1. Damn tricky that detailed fence terrain
im sure there was one at archerfield as well, but the points still valid.
That was ESOC.
Graeme
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Graeme wrote:Iain, can you just remind me where the JK-quality areas are in eastern Scotland, say in the 150 miles between Perth and the English border.
I fancy a run and I seem to have missed them.
Much of the alleged "quality" of Scottish areas comes from the willingness
of clubs to travel long distances from their base to use the best areas. This is hugely helped by the system of SOA-owned maps, so when clubs get allocated an event, they have a broad choice of areas to work with. In 15 years, I can't remember INT staging a badge event within an hour's drive of the planner or organiser's house.
Graeme
Try going further north than Edinburgh.
15 mins out of the grey city and you can find a miriad of areas to choose from.
More to the point, if your trying to say that the best areas in britain arn't Scotish areas, then where would you suggest as a general point of reference?
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hitmanjon wrote:More to the point, if your trying to say that the best areas in britain arn't Scotish areas, then where would you suggest as a general point of reference?
Not saying anything of the sort - just replying to Iain's claim that there are "no regions of Scotland which can't find areas worthy of a JK" - its sort of true, but only because we're willing to travel out of our region just as EMOA 'found' Greythwaite for their JK.
"best areas in Britain?" - Deeside's a bit rough for my tastes - there's a good reason why the National Orienteering Centre is where it is and why we (INT) regularly organise events up there.
But good planning is more important.
Graeme
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