Graythwaite Start List

[lakesorunner]

The start list is now posted on the Oentries site (which is back up and running at full speed again!) You will note that only start times are shown. We are working on a list which will be accessed from the LOC site which also shows the scale you have chosen. If you have either chosen, or been given, the wrong scale, you MUST act on this immediately and inform the entries team.
We will also be posting a full set of descriptions.

gentries@lakeland-orienteering.org.uk

[RS]

Thanks for putting this up but what a faff trying to find yourself - clubs aren't alphabetical and the other classifications are muddled up Give me Fabian any day

[lakesorunner]

I know - that is why we are trying to put up a meaningful list on the LOC site. It is on Oentries as this is initially quicker, and so many people have been moaning about wanting info sooner rather than later...
Will be trying to get changes to O-entries so the system works more efficiently in future.

[lakesorunner]

Slightly amended start times are now up on O-Entries.

They have been changed due to some runners having the same start time on the same course. Hope they are OK now.

[TimField]

Final details, and list of entries including start times and map scale now on LOC web site. Control descriptions still outstanding.

[pyrat]

Will be making these alterations to the entry list when I get back from holiday. Oentries is not giving up the fight against the other entry systems just yet.

[mappingmum]

....what a faff trying to find yourself . . .

In IE, ctrl F (or Edit from the menu, Find (on This page))

Never found it a faff locating club members myself in oentries using the above method and searching by club.

[Doug T]

what a faff trying to find yourself

names are in alphabetical order. could it be any easier to find yourself!?

[awk]

Going through the start list, one thing took me a little bit by surprise: if this is a regional event, why are there age classes for juniors? Under the new system (obviously not being used) they should be colour coded, under the old system (presumably being used as there are senior age classes) surely they should be JM/JW1-5?

[greywolf]

Going through the start list, one thing took me a little bit by surprise: if this is a regional event, why are there age classes for juniors? Under the new system (obviously not being used) they should be colour coded, under the old system (presumably being used as there are senior age classes) surely they should be JM/JW1-5?

It appears that they are using "National" event classes, despite the removal of L1 status by BOF over the choice of map scale issue. As they are now in breach of the guidelines for Level 2 "Regional" events perhaps BOF should do the logical thing and bust them down to L3....

[RS]

Yes, Doug, names are alphabetical but category and course don't appear to be in any particular order so it is a faff trying to find who is on your course....

As for whether the classes are named correctly, does it really matter? You are still racing the same people in one of the best areas on what is hopefully going to be a lovely sunny day It seems to me that often (not here tho) you pay more according to the name of the event category. We are getting all the fripperies of a National event at a Regional (if that's the correct description ) cost. I also wonder what the 'extras' are you get at National events. Commentary systems? I'm open to comments....
Roll on Sunday

[awk]

It appears that they are using "National" event classes, despite the removal of L1 status by BOF over the choice of map scale issue.

A pity, as it makes the shortest TD5 course available to a junior male rather too long for our needs. There's always non-comp entry, of course.

As for whether the classes are named correctly, does it really matter?

Actually, RS, the differences are rather greater than simply the names. Be that as it may, I'm sure, as you say, it'll be a great event. It was merely a curiosity that did effect our entry, so I was simply looking for an explanation. In our circumstances, a non-comp run won't be a problem.

[lakesorunner]

The main reason for leaving things as if it were a National Event is that much of the planning was completed before British Orienteering downgraded the event from L1 to L2. The responses we (LOC) got from British Orienteering were slow at best, and it was felt that certain groups involved were missing the point of the bigger scales. By the time it was resolved (or not, depending on your point of view), the event was at an advanced stage of planning and controlling.
We decided to go with the courses and class cominations used from the start, as the terrain and planning are all exactly the same as if it were a National.
And it still is the Northern Champs, and a FCC race...

[awk]

Anybody able to tell me who the on-line survey on the LOC website about Greythwaite is actually going to. The space for comments is tiny, and there's not enough room to say what's needed (which, in my case, is that I appreciated the 1:7500 because of the relatively poor printing resolutions and colours, but if the map had been 'properly' printed, then 1:10k might have been my preferred option - it's difficult to tell with no examples available).

[Spookster]

I've done the questionnaire, but as awk says, it's very difficult to get your comments within the limit on the number of characters.

I ran with 1:15, and was happy with it. What I didn't like about the map was:
- paper that was more like plastic - far too glossy, and consequently the print was wearing off the map by the end.
- control circles that were too small (not 6mm).

I though the course was good (course 3), and it will be interesting to see how many different possible routes there are on the long leg 10 back over the main hill, when RouteGadget is up.