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rocky wrote:think all that fast running might have affected your memory Fyrish!
25th in 86 presumably... hats off to you!!!
A certain Gareth Bryan Jones (Scot 68-70) being the only feasible male option.
Incidentally, why isn't there a list of historic British and JK champions anywhere on the net?
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tim sleepless wrote:Incidentally, why isn't there a list of historic British and JK champions anywhere on the net?
I'm working on it if I ever get some spare time. Now that I've got the WOC results sorted out I know roughly what can and can't be done.
Long-term there is a desperate need for a single "BOF" results database. The technology is not terribly difficult: input in IOF XML file format, pretty front end, everything hosted somewhere that it isn't going to disappear. Sounds like a job for Nopesport contributors.
By the way, it was definitely Colin McIntyre wasn't it?
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Might have to admit that I'm referring to competitions whose names have changed.
But I'm not confusing the British with the JK.
Graeme
PS Hello to the 21E and open relay winners from my first JK!
But I'm not confusing the British with the JK.
Graeme
PS Hello to the 21E and open relay winners from my first JK!
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Test races at SprintScotland (Alloa/Falkirk) and Euromeeting (near Stirling).
Test races at SprintScotland (Alloa/Falkirk) and Euromeeting (near Stirling).
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Of the men Hyman and Bryan-Jones have run the equivalent of the world XC champs... I don't know if they've won the premier British orienteering champs class though
I can't find any other potentials in the world XC results I recognise (not Brasher or Pirie, McIntyre, or Disley).
I can't find any other potentials in the world XC results I recognise (not Brasher or Pirie, McIntyre, or Disley).
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Simon E wrote:tim sleepless wrote:Incidentally, why isn't there a list of historic British and JK champions anywhere on the net?
I'm working on it if I ever get some spare time. Now that I've got the WOC results sorted out I know roughly what can and can't be done.
I've got an almost complete list of British and JK M/W21 Individual and Relay Champions. Just short of a few gaps; my aim was to post on a very simple site in the near future along with other sets of domestic orienteering sets, and may still do so, but alternatively, Simon, you can have them for posting on yours if that would save time.
In the meantime, I'm pretty sure that Martin Hyman and Gareth B-J aren't the people as neither were M21 champions. Colin McIntyre might have been champion in 1983, the only year I'm missing M21E, but otherwise he'd be ruled out too.
The list as I have it (it may of course have mistakes) is:
1967 Gordon Pirie
1968 Gordon Pirie
1969 Mike Wells-Cole
1970 Mike Wells-Cole
1971 Geoff Peck
1972 Mike Murray
1973 Graham Pyatt
1974 Alistair Wood
1975 Tony Thornley
1976 Geoff Peck
1977 Geoff Peck
1978 Brian Bullen
1979 Geoff Peck
1980 Chris Hirst
1981 Chris Hirst
1982 Chris Hirst
1983 ?
1984 Martin Bagness
1985 Martin Bagness
1986 Andrew Kitchin
1987 Andrew Kitchin
1988 Steven Hale
1989 Steven Hale
1990 Steven Hale
1991 Stephen Palmer
1992 Steve Nicholson
1993 Dave Peel
1994 Neil Conway
1995 Jon Musgrave
1996 Steve Nicholson
1997 Jamie Stevenson
1998 Steve Nicholson
1999 Stephen Palmer
2000 Jon Duncan
2001 Jon Duncan
2002 Dan Marston
2003 Ed Nash
2004 Ed Nash
2005 Oli Johnson
2006 Jamie Stevenson
I'm also looking for the following:
2004 British Relay Men's and Women's Champions (Forest of Dean)
1985 JK Women's Relay Champions (at Callaly?)
1983 British Women's Individual/Women's Relay/Men's Relay.
Any info gratefully received!
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Thank you Gnitworp. I was going to check that 1973 entry this morning (amongst others) as I did read at one point that Geoff Peck had won 5 national titles, and I only had him down for 4, so if nothing else you saved me a bit of trawling!
So - can't be Colin McIntyre then either.
So - can't be Colin McIntyre then either.
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I've just checked the list above against the M21E trophy, which is sitting in our house - with the corrections for '73 & '83, all ok.
Surely Pirie would have run in the World XC? However, remember that Scotland (& Wales?) fielded its own team in past days, as those who searched the 1985/86 results would notice.
Surely Pirie would have run in the World XC? However, remember that Scotland (& Wales?) fielded its own team in past days, as those who searched the 1985/86 results would notice.
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Bill wrote:Surely Pirie would have run in the World XC? However, remember that Scotland (& Wales?) fielded its own team in past days, as those who searched the 1985/86 results would notice.
As mentioned earlier, the World Cross-Country only started in 1973. Prior to that it was known as the International Cross-Country Championships. The only male names that stand out with an orienteering connection to me are:
Gordon Pirie, 1953 (19th)
Martin Hyman, 1961 (3rd)
Gareth Bryan-Jones, 1968 (47th), 1969 (43rd), 1970 (57th)
So, presumably, Graeme is talking about Gordon Pirie (as suspected).
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To maintain some sort of balance (and to satisfy the curious, if any) the women winners of the British Champs (classic/long) have been (subject to scrutiny!):
1967 Carol McNeill
1968 Hazel Hill
1969 Carol McNeill
1970 Sue Banner
1971 Sue Bone
1972 Carol McNeill
1973 Allyson Reed
1974 Carol McNeill
1975 Carol McNeill
1976 Carol McNeill
1977 Sue Banner
1978 Jenny Pearson
1979 Jean Ramsden
1980 Sue Parkin
1981 Jean Ramsden
1982 Jane Robson
1983 ?
1984 Sue Parkin
1985 Jean Ramsden
1986 Anne Salisbury
1987 Jean Ramsden
1988 Karen Parker
1989 Yvette Hague
1990 Yvette Hague
1991 Yvette Hague
1992 course voided
1993 Heather Monro
1994 Yvette Hague
1995 Yvette Hague
1996 Una Creagh
1997 course voided
1998 Yvette Hague
1999 Yvette Baker
2000 Heather Monro
2001 Jenny James
2002 Heather Monro
2003 Jenny Whitehead
2004 Helen Winskill
2005 Helen Winskill
2006 Heather Monro
My memories are that Claire Bolland 'won' the 1992 race (a misplaced control) and Yvette 'won' the 1997 race (it was her protest that led to voiding).
For more recent aficionados:
Yvette Hague = Yvette Baker
Sue Banner = Sue Parkin
Sue Bone is now better known as Sue Harvey
Jane Robson is now Jane Morgan
Jean Ramsden later ran as Jean Cory-Wright (and holds jointly with Yvette the record number of appearances by a Brit in World Championships: 10. Geoff Peck is the longest serving man - 9 for GB, although he also ran for Hong Kong in 1999).
1967 Carol McNeill
1968 Hazel Hill
1969 Carol McNeill
1970 Sue Banner
1971 Sue Bone
1972 Carol McNeill
1973 Allyson Reed
1974 Carol McNeill
1975 Carol McNeill
1976 Carol McNeill
1977 Sue Banner
1978 Jenny Pearson
1979 Jean Ramsden
1980 Sue Parkin
1981 Jean Ramsden
1982 Jane Robson
1983 ?
1984 Sue Parkin
1985 Jean Ramsden
1986 Anne Salisbury
1987 Jean Ramsden
1988 Karen Parker
1989 Yvette Hague
1990 Yvette Hague
1991 Yvette Hague
1992 course voided
1993 Heather Monro
1994 Yvette Hague
1995 Yvette Hague
1996 Una Creagh
1997 course voided
1998 Yvette Hague
1999 Yvette Baker
2000 Heather Monro
2001 Jenny James
2002 Heather Monro
2003 Jenny Whitehead
2004 Helen Winskill
2005 Helen Winskill
2006 Heather Monro
My memories are that Claire Bolland 'won' the 1992 race (a misplaced control) and Yvette 'won' the 1997 race (it was her protest that led to voiding).
For more recent aficionados:
Yvette Hague = Yvette Baker
Sue Banner = Sue Parkin
Sue Bone is now better known as Sue Harvey
Jane Robson is now Jane Morgan
Jean Ramsden later ran as Jean Cory-Wright (and holds jointly with Yvette the record number of appearances by a Brit in World Championships: 10. Geoff Peck is the longest serving man - 9 for GB, although he also ran for Hong Kong in 1999).
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In the same vein, and in case anyone is interested, although off the original topic, there are some interesting names on what is now the H20E BOC trophy:
1968 Brian Bullen
1969 Adrian Barnes
1970 Peter Jagan
1971 Stuart Easton
1972 Alasdair Wood
1973 Mike Down
1974 Grant Carstairs
1975 Tak Sugiyama
1976 Tim Watkins
1977 Don Hill
1978 Graham McIntyre
1979 Steve Barrett
1980 Dave Nevell
1981 Jon Musgrave
1982 Colin McIntyre
1983 S Parker
1984 Mick Brett
1985 Mark Chapman
1986 Pakit Hyman
1987 Steve Palmer
1988 Steve Nicholson
1989 Jason Inman
1990 Jason Inman
1991 Bruce McIntyre
1992
1993 Richard Wren
1994 Richard Wren
1995 Jamie Stevenson
1996 Tom Hart
1997 Siggy Gould
1998 Rob Baker
1999 Ben Roberts
2000 Nick Taylor
2001 Matt Crane
2002 Edward Catmur
2003 Matt Speake
2004 Graham Gristwood
2005 Colin Olivant
2006 Duncan Coombs
1968 Brian Bullen
1969 Adrian Barnes
1970 Peter Jagan
1971 Stuart Easton
1972 Alasdair Wood
1973 Mike Down
1974 Grant Carstairs
1975 Tak Sugiyama
1976 Tim Watkins
1977 Don Hill
1978 Graham McIntyre
1979 Steve Barrett
1980 Dave Nevell
1981 Jon Musgrave
1982 Colin McIntyre
1983 S Parker
1984 Mick Brett
1985 Mark Chapman
1986 Pakit Hyman
1987 Steve Palmer
1988 Steve Nicholson
1989 Jason Inman
1990 Jason Inman
1991 Bruce McIntyre
1992
1993 Richard Wren
1994 Richard Wren
1995 Jamie Stevenson
1996 Tom Hart
1997 Siggy Gould
1998 Rob Baker
1999 Ben Roberts
2000 Nick Taylor
2001 Matt Crane
2002 Edward Catmur
2003 Matt Speake
2004 Graham Gristwood
2005 Colin Olivant
2006 Duncan Coombs
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awk wrote:Bill wrote:
As mentioned earlier, the World Cross-Country only started in 1973. Prior to that it was known as the International Cross-Country Championships. The only male names that stand out with an orienteering connection to me are:
Gordon Pirie, 1953 (19th)
Martin Hyman, 1961 (3rd)
Gareth Bryan-Jones, 1968 (47th), 1969 (43rd), 1970 (57th)
So, presumably, Graeme is talking about Gordon Pirie (as suspected).
Bugger, didn't spot Pirie in the wxc results..
Good puzzle anyway. And we're assuming that Marcella Robertson is the womens relay winner??
How do twe best get the honour role on the BOF websute?
Anyone got the JK results also?
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