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SeanC wrote:AR and OpenAdventure, do you think 10-20 adventure racers would want to do this? Our areas aren't the best in the country, but they are often near a train station, and you can always walk to a road and get a cab if you're completely lost. There would be a 30-60 minute train ride out of London.
I have no doubt there would be mileage in this particuarly if it was advertised well. I'm actually based in the lakes now but with four companies (Aceraces, Questars, Dynamic Adventure and Trailplus) around London all making a tremendous success of running short events you would hope that 10-20 could make their way to a training session like this.
IMHO though I would suggest that accompaning people on a course is really important. I would also suggest you clarify your objective, is it to teach Adventure Racers how to orienteer (e.g. using typical orienteering maps) or is it to teach Adventure Racers how to navigate (in which case you probably need to use OS maps). If your objective is the later then I would also suggest that there would be real value in the trainer attending an event as part of a team just so that they understand the dynamics of navigating and competeing in a team situation (navigation by committee is a no - no!)
Someone also commented about the quality of maps and level of difficulty - yes and no, the navigation is often limited by the maps and access. So for MTBing it would invaribly be easy as most events use bridleways however as Adventure Racer points out - we have both done night nav sections on a 1:25000 which would challenge most orienteers.
I as a competitor have also attended events where controls have been misplaced (in one event you had to go off the map to legally bag the control!) I think its a really poor show particuarly when the events cost so much money. I take a great deal of care in the running of my events, I hope and pray you never have to complain of control in the wrong place.
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Thanks for the advice open adventure.
I think the objectives will be to teach adults with some experience with map and compass who wish to go orienteering (occasionally or frequently) how to orienteer. I am making the following assumptions:
a) that most but not all will be adventure racers
b) learning how to orienteer will improve their adventure racing.
c) Adventure racers don't go adventure racing every weekend and will want to go orienteering a few times a year.
My thinking is that the training in the morning will include accompanying them through the forest to show scale, features etc. I don't think there will be enough helpers to accompany them in the afternoon unless they do the LGreen course in a big group. I can't see that going round in a group of more than 5 will be a good idea, but I will think about this. I shall have a word with my club's coach and see what she thinks.
I think the objectives will be to teach adults with some experience with map and compass who wish to go orienteering (occasionally or frequently) how to orienteer. I am making the following assumptions:
a) that most but not all will be adventure racers
b) learning how to orienteer will improve their adventure racing.
c) Adventure racers don't go adventure racing every weekend and will want to go orienteering a few times a year.
My thinking is that the training in the morning will include accompanying them through the forest to show scale, features etc. I don't think there will be enough helpers to accompany them in the afternoon unless they do the LGreen course in a big group. I can't see that going round in a group of more than 5 will be a good idea, but I will think about this. I shall have a word with my club's coach and see what she thinks.
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openadventure wrote:I as a competitor have also attended events where controls have been misplaced (in one event you had to go off the map to legally bag the control!) I think its a really poor show particuarly when the events cost so much money. I take a great deal of care in the running of my events, I hope and pray you never have to complain of control in the wrong place.
Now that is something we all hope and pray about.....
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SeanC, I'm your friendly club coach (yes, fully BOF accredited). I may have been in hiding as far as DFOK coaching goes (too busy doing adventure races??) Looks like you've been doing more for the club than me with your training runs!
However, I think your ideas are great and your presumptions correct (although I may be biased due to my entry to AR through orienteering).
However, PM me and we can talk more via email/phone. I also have a Mr P2B who would be willing to lend a hand and add manpower which will be important on the day.
However, I think your ideas are great and your presumptions correct (although I may be biased due to my entry to AR through orienteering).
However, PM me and we can talk more via email/phone. I also have a Mr P2B who would be willing to lend a hand and add manpower which will be important on the day.
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