Music at events
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peterb wrote:Gross, so to be more specific why don't we hear about orienteers getting sued or fined for non-payment of licences?
maybe because they have licenses or are using only royalty free music?
or are you talking about someone blaring out a ghettoblaster?
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peterb wrote:I assume by ghettoblaster you're talking PA, in which case yes that is what I mean.
Also, how would you know if music was royalty free with out doing a ton of research on tinternet.
no by ghettoblaster i mean a stereo. and not a personal one.
i'm sure the prs when you contact them to find out how much you'd have to pay for a license would be able to give you an indication of royalty free music you could use. otherwise yes, the internet is host to that information, im sure there was a thread asking for some a while back.
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Orienteering, in many instances is one in which permission is required from the landowner.
Hence, the land can be considered private as no general public usage has been allowed.
The MCPS-PRS alliance is one which joins the workings of the PRS with the MCPS (mechanical-copyright protection society) and hence manages both activities.
I say, stop with the pointless debate, because...
In light of the above statement, there is no cause for concern for use of licenced music on private premises. Why you don't have to pay a licence on top of the price of a CD or a radio to play it in your home. So why, if it is on private property which we have been granted permission to use, should we need a licence to play music. On private land. It's just like inviting someone into your own house and saying that they can't put thier CD on the stereo unless they have a licence.
One of the uses the PRS/MCRS focus on is use of music within businesses, and the need for a licence when playing a radio in a shop, for example. When, may I ask, did a sports club (note NOT BOF) class as a BUSINESS and not an ORGANISATION? The majority of staff governing the sport (excluding at national level) in this country are volunteers, working to attract more volunteers into the sport. This is unlike a business where paid employees are working to sell thier product to a client for a price. Hence, it is organisations (eg clubs) who run events, which are responsible for any use of music, and as such can not be classed as business use under the terms of licensing. We do not intend to make a profit which will not be put back into the sport.
Like I said before, how come we don't hear about orienteers getting into trouble for use of music over PA at events on private land, aside from volume/disturbance etc.
Hence, the land can be considered private as no general public usage has been allowed.
The MCPS-PRS alliance is one which joins the workings of the PRS with the MCPS (mechanical-copyright protection society) and hence manages both activities.
I say, stop with the pointless debate, because...
In light of the above statement, there is no cause for concern for use of licenced music on private premises. Why you don't have to pay a licence on top of the price of a CD or a radio to play it in your home. So why, if it is on private property which we have been granted permission to use, should we need a licence to play music. On private land. It's just like inviting someone into your own house and saying that they can't put thier CD on the stereo unless they have a licence.
One of the uses the PRS/MCRS focus on is use of music within businesses, and the need for a licence when playing a radio in a shop, for example. When, may I ask, did a sports club (note NOT BOF) class as a BUSINESS and not an ORGANISATION? The majority of staff governing the sport (excluding at national level) in this country are volunteers, working to attract more volunteers into the sport. This is unlike a business where paid employees are working to sell thier product to a client for a price. Hence, it is organisations (eg clubs) who run events, which are responsible for any use of music, and as such can not be classed as business use under the terms of licensing. We do not intend to make a profit which will not be put back into the sport.
Like I said before, how come we don't hear about orienteers getting into trouble for use of music over PA at events on private land, aside from volume/disturbance etc.
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Peter B wrote:
Like I said before, how come we don't hear about orienteers getting into trouble for use of music over PA at events on private land, aside from volume/disturbance etc.
haven't you just answered your own question?
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Anonymous wrote:As always, I will be doing the music at my kids' school summer fete this year. I must remember to get in touch with the PRS... Yeah, right.
What a ridiculous thread.
So just because a school ignores the law, doesn't make it right.
Who needs a PRS license.
"Any location or premises where music is played and can be heard by the public".
Seems pretty clear cut to me.
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Yes and no.
Use of music at relays: is music distracting when played immediately before or after a mass start? Annoyed to find you can't concentrate on route to #1 because they are playing the theme tune to some famous TV show?
Use of music at relays: is music distracting when played immediately before or after a mass start? Annoyed to find you can't concentrate on route to #1 because they are playing the theme tune to some famous TV show?
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