dodgy heels
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i do the same, and my shoes end up in a similar state. doesnt seem to be too much of a prob, except possibly wears out the shoes more quickly! definitely a lot better than the opposite (over-pronating?) g, have you had problems from this at all?
i have had more problems from having really high arched feet. my arches like to collapse and can get quite painful if theyre not supported. been trying to find o-shoes with good arch support and dobs (after having problems with old integrators which have no support whatsoever) no such shoe exists...the best i could find were some red+grey jalas ones which were more built up than most.
i have had more problems from having really high arched feet. my arches like to collapse and can get quite painful if theyre not supported. been trying to find o-shoes with good arch support and dobs (after having problems with old integrators which have no support whatsoever) no such shoe exists...the best i could find were some red+grey jalas ones which were more built up than most.
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Get orthopods, they're great and you can slip them into any shoe. Best to get full length ones for sports (though i just use my half length ones and find them grand).
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From the way your shoe looks I'd say you have pronation or supination of you ankles, this is when the ankle tips to the outside to compensate for other abnormalities, I'm not too up on pronation as I suffer from the opposite, (super pronation) do you have problems in your knees with them "locking" when you squat or bend the calf right up to the thigh? or any other problem with the knee? This in my experience is a key sign to a major problem with pronation and super pronation, although my actual experience is rather limited, most people suffer from this to a degree but if it causes problems then you should get it checked out and get othotic insoles to compensate your ankles way of dealing with it so as to save the ankle and the knee. It’s really not uncommon and I think most probably most people here either pronate or super pronate, I’m not an othitist or a doc, I have limited info on this from my own experience but I'd say from the look of your shoes ( and it does depend hoe old the shoes are, how often you wear them etc.) but you do need insoles and full length are better to compensate and save your knees and ankles, even just "superfeet" or the like from the local sports shop are fairly good but a proper othotist will custom make them to your needs.
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Asian - light green
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G, that's what happens when you wear the same pair of shoes loads. You are supposed to have a heel-strike on the outside bit of the heel rather than centrally or on the inside, so that is the bit of the shoe that wears out first.
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Stodgetta - brown
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G - I have to agree with Stodgetta. Although I'm no podiatrist, the photo looks like a normal pair of shoes after a fair bit of wear.
If in doubt, see a podiatrist rather than get our unqualified opinions, not least because they would examine the whole foot action rather than limited view photographs.
If in doubt, see a podiatrist rather than get our unqualified opinions, not least because they would examine the whole foot action rather than limited view photographs.
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If in doubt, see a podiatrist
But be very careful - Stodge is now one bone and £5k lighter 3 years after seeing one (and Lloyd may now be looking at the same problem just weeks after seeing one!)
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Stodgetta - brown
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Prof Rolf told Stodge never to wear orthotics again. He explained that when running in terrain, your foot never hits the ground the same way twice, and you tend to spend more time on your forefoot than on your hind foot. As a result, orthotics that control the back of the foot do very little except raise the heel further off the ground, increasing the risk of a nasty ankle sprain. He does use orthotics, but only as a last resort, and would suggest using them for wearing day to day walking around only.
It makes sense, but when the 3 or 4 podiatrists all explained their reasoning, it always made sense, too.
Where are you running tonight?
It makes sense, but when the 3 or 4 podiatrists all explained their reasoning, it always made sense, too.
Where are you running tonight?
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Stodgetta - brown
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Re: dodgy heels
G wrote:they may be old and muddy but the heels show that i walk like a spastic. any information on how i can stop walking on the outsides of my feet would be appreciated!
Agree they look like normal shoe wear but the real question is do your feet/legs/back hurt while quote "walking like a spastic"? If not don't worry about it!
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FatBoy - addict
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Ankle sprain from orthotic usage
I have worn orthotics for a few years now, and I have occasionally gone over on my ankle. I agree with one of the correspondents, who said that orthotics make it more likely that ankle injuries would happen, because one's heel is likely to be higher off the ground than it would otherwise have been.
Last week, I had a really bad sprain (crutches for a week) , and part of the blame (apart from bad luck!), must go to the use of orthotics.
But what would be the alternative? Simply run in my severely over-pronated state (and accept that I am not a 'natural' runner)? Any opinions from posiatrists and non-pods?
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Last week, I had a really bad sprain (crutches for a week) , and part of the blame (apart from bad luck!), must go to the use of orthotics.
But what would be the alternative? Simply run in my severely over-pronated state (and accept that I am not a 'natural' runner)? Any opinions from posiatrists and non-pods?
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I've had orthotics with a major tilt on them to sort out my dodgy legs for 10 years. Reason for getting them was shin splits.
As they would lift my heel too high out of O shoes I don't wear them when orienteering. As running in terrain avoids the repetitive impact at the wrong angle that caused the shin splints in the first place this doesn't seem to have been a problem.
If your orthotics are due to problems with road running as opposed to running in the terrain then I'd try orienteering without them.
As they would lift my heel too high out of O shoes I don't wear them when orienteering. As running in terrain avoids the repetitive impact at the wrong angle that caused the shin splints in the first place this doesn't seem to have been a problem.
If your orthotics are due to problems with road running as opposed to running in the terrain then I'd try orienteering without them.
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Are you sure you mean this?????
I have a feeling that you might have meant orthotics. Only the thing is if you try to stick an orthopod into your shoe they might not fit and would probably put up a bit of a fight! Orthopods are generally not to be annoyed as it is! Full length ones as well as half length ones!
rosalind wrote:Get orthopods, they're great and you can slip them into any shoe. Best to get full length ones for sports (though i just use my half length ones and find them grand).
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pronation and supination
My shoes do this after a while. You just come down on your heel at that point and entirely normal as this is the way that we tend to distribute the force of our heel striking the ground. What it means is, is that you need a new pair of shoes or at least heels.
Only seek help if you are having problems.
Only seek help if you are having problems.
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