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The silly was more referring to why you can't be a member of more than one closed club if you're eligible for both? I am definitely of the opinion that you should only run for one of them in the big relays rather then chop and change, but I'd quite like to join my alumni and present uni club next year to get the benefits of both.
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Ed wrote:You can be in as many clubs as you like, but after the first two (one open/one closed), you just can't tell BOF (i.e. as a "local member" only)
Read what Ed said Becky!! You can be a member of both EUOC and JOK. As for running for them in the UKRL, I think that's a completely different and complicated matter!
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Belonging to lots of clubs
There seems to be a lot of nonsense in this posting.
Anyone can join as many clubs as are prepared to take their money off them. They are just restricted to only competing for one Open and one Closed club in a particular year.
As for the suggestion of restricting membership to just one club, this would force all the university students to join only their university club - otherwise they wouldn't be able to run at BUSA.
A bit rough if you are the only decent orienteer at your university and want to run in a decent relay team.
Anyone can join as many clubs as are prepared to take their money off them. They are just restricted to only competing for one Open and one Closed club in a particular year.
As for the suggestion of restricting membership to just one club, this would force all the university students to join only their university club - otherwise they wouldn't be able to run at BUSA.
A bit rough if you are the only decent orienteer at your university and want to run in a decent relay team.
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Re: Belonging to lots of clubs
Anonymous wrote:As for the suggestion of restricting membership to just one club, this would force all the university students to join only their university club - otherwise they wouldn't be able to run at BUSA.
I think you'd have to make exemptions for certain races - BUSA would def be one as it's a closed race anyway. Taking the example of silly athletics for example you can run for your uni in BUSA without affecting your ability to run for your "normal" club.
However it's a good example. Why should someone who (as most uni students do) always runs week in week out for e.g EUOC suddenly turn out at compass sport cup for e.g. DVO. I'd say the rule still applies (except for BUSA etc) - you choose for the year whether to run for EUOC or DVO. Slightly complicated by when uni years finish I know. My point is everybody must have seen a result at a compass sport cup match and say "I didn't know Mr X belonged to club Y".
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I'm going to be doing just that next weekend. I think CSC is different as Uni clubs just don't have the demographic to enter - so why shouldn't I go back home and support my home club?
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Re: Belonging to lots of clubs
FatBoy wrote:However it's a good example. Why should someone who (as most uni students do) always runs week in week out for e.g EUOC suddenly turn out at compass sport cup for e.g. DVO. I'd say the rule still applies (except for BUSA etc) - you choose for the year whether to run for EUOC or DVO. Slightly complicated by when uni years finish I know. My point is everybody must have seen a result at a compass sport cup match and say "I didn't know Mr X belonged to club Y".
I think it's fair enough to say that within one competition you should run for one club, i.e. the UKRL example.
But I think it should be OK to run for your other club (one of the ones that is on your BOF form) in another competition, eg. CSC in this case in the same year. Are there restrictions on that?
Seeing as most Uni clubs haven't got a broad enough membership to have a team in the CSC, it makes sense for Uni club members (who may well run in relays for their Uni clubs) to come and support their home club by running for them in the CSC?
Just a thought, cheers,
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I think its really good for people who are at uni to still support their home clubs where possible, whether competing or just helping out at events. Obviously they've got an obligation to their university club to run for them when needed but for things like CSC & YBT I think its great that some people make the effort to get to these events to run for their club. The club more than likely will have done a lot for them and its good to repay this in anyway possible.
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Re: Belonging to lots of clubs
I wasn't considering the reality just the principle. The reality is if my suggestion were to come in, I would have to join a "local" club to have any hope of a relay run, because all my usual team mates would no longer be running for SPLOT. So hence my suggestion would inconvience me, I just think the rules as they stand are a halfway house.
Take my example of EUOC and DVO and make it closer to my reality. If I run for SPLOT every week and in the JK relays and BOC relays but then choose to run for DVO (pretend I joined my local club) in the CSC. Is that fair? OK under the rules currently it's techincally "fair" but is it morally? SPLOT is a big ish closed club with members from babies spanning up to 50's and 60's, just about big enough we've had a CST team for the last 2 years. Who should I run for in the CSC/T - DVO or SPLOT?
I think you're right Brooner - you should support your home club by continuing to run for them! Just run for the uni club at BUSA and (if it still exists) the Churchill Cup. This would parallel most other sports. E.g. Canoe Polo - you can't play for Cardiff Uni and Cardiff because there in the same league!
Take my example of EUOC and DVO and make it closer to my reality. If I run for SPLOT every week and in the JK relays and BOC relays but then choose to run for DVO (pretend I joined my local club) in the CSC. Is that fair? OK under the rules currently it's techincally "fair" but is it morally? SPLOT is a big ish closed club with members from babies spanning up to 50's and 60's, just about big enough we've had a CST team for the last 2 years. Who should I run for in the CSC/T - DVO or SPLOT?
I think you're right Brooner - you should support your home club by continuing to run for them! Just run for the uni club at BUSA and (if it still exists) the Churchill Cup. This would parallel most other sports. E.g. Canoe Polo - you can't play for Cardiff Uni and Cardiff because there in the same league!
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Eh?? I haven't proposed anything. FatBoy and PorkyFatBoy are different people. Maybe I should become Porky to avoid the confusion?Rocky wrote:surely what pfb proposed
You mean clubs actually fill age class slots in the csc? - If our whole team entered only one class we still wouldn't fill it !Rocky wrote:most clubs would to fill the M/W20 age class in the csc?
I don't really have a view on this as I don't have a second club I could join and it's along time till any of our juniors go to uni. It does however seem daft since in my view there are uni comps (BUSA) and Club comps (CSC), but I guess relays could be the odd one out, where you get both uni and club teams (JK relays?).
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Re: Belonging to lots of clubs
FatBoy wrote:Take my example of EUOC and DVO and make it closer to my reality. If I run for SPLOT every week and in the JK relays and BOC relays but then choose to run for DVO (pretend I joined my local club) in the CSC. Is that fair? OK under the rules currently it's techincally "fair" but is it morally? SPLOT is a big ish closed club with members from babies spanning up to 50's and 60's, just about big enough we've had a CST team for the last 2 years. Who should I run for in the CSC/T - DVO or SPLOT?
Yes, but most Uni clubs don't tend to have members spanning from babies to people in their 50's/60's so this question isn't really relevant for them!
I still think that it's quite fair that CSC and UKRL are separate competition and you can run for your open or closed club for either competition.
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