I've been perusing the info about the regional rounds for the Young Orienteers' Festival as OUOC are running the Oxford one, and there don't seem to be any teams from the north getting involved (with the notable exception of Barrow). Just wondered if many others were thinking of volunteering to run regional rounds? It is supposed to be a national effort after all.
There's not too much work involved - you need to plan the regional heat, find funding for T shirts and transport to Battersea Park on May 2nd for your team and a few other small bits and pieces. It needs to be done pretty quickly though, as teams need to be finalised by April 27th. The more teams we have from a wider area, the more kids we get to enjoy our fantastic sport, and the more chance we have of getting some decent media coverage. Come on guys, get those volunteering hats out! I have a useful attachment with info if anyone is interested, or you can contact Chris Robinson - pm me for her e mail address.
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I did assume that this would be the problem, in that no one knew about what was going on! On the day of the World Cup Sprint final in Battersea park there's going to be a schools' competition afterwards. Teams from cities and boroughs around the UK are invited to take part. Local clubs and authorities are therefore wanted to put of local heats to select their team of 24 participants to bring along. I don't think there's a web site, but the info sheet goes something like this...
Young Orienteers Festival
Bank Holiday Monday 2 May 2005
Battersea Park, South London
Young orienteers from around the country will be able to compete in this national festival, which will be held in conjunction with the World Cup Sprint Final. Young people will be able to rub shoulders with the world’s top orienteers, cheer on the GB team in what promises to be the most spectacular and spectator-friendly orienteering event ever held in the UK - and then take part in their own competition festival.
Local Young Orienteers Festivals
will be held in April around the country in which all young people can take part. The best from each Local YO Festival will be selected to represent their town/borough at the Young Orienteers Festival on 2 May.
Clubs, Local Authority Sports Development Units, or youth organisations are encouraged to hold their own Local YO Festival and send a team to the inter-town festival on 2 May.
Local Young Orienteers Festivals currently planned are:
14 Apr Kingston
19 Apr Aldershot
20 Apr Fleet
21 Apr Woking
21 Apr Guildford
22 Apr Surrey Heath, Frimley Lodge Park
25 Apr Merton, Wimbledon Park
? Barrow, Bexley, Bristol, Cambridge, Essex, Leicester, Milton Keynes, Mole Valley, Nottingham, Oxford, Swindon, Watford
A suggested timetable for the Local YOFs
(this is here as some people have asked for guidance; it is up to you how you run the Local YOFs)
10-12am Primary (Years 5&6) - equivalent to White standard
1-2pm Lower Secondary (Years 7&8) - equivalent to Yellow standard
2-3pm Upper Secondary (Years 9, 10 & 11) - equivalent to Orange standard
Schools can send any number of competitors to the Local YOFs.
Young Orienteers Festival, Battersea Park, 2 May 2005
From each Local YOF, up to 24 competitors may be selected to represent the town/borough at the Young Orienteers Festival at Battersea Park on 2 May:
§ Primary (Years 5&6) 4 boys and 4 girls - equivalent to White standard
§ Lower Secondary (Years 7&8) 4 boys and 4 girls - equivalent to Yellow standard
§ Upper Secondary (Years 9,10 & 11) 4 boys and 4 girls - equivalent to Orange standard
The local council, club or youth organisation will be responsible for:
§ organising and planning their own Local YOF
§ sending results to the World Cup Development Team to go on the World Cup website
§ selecting up to 24 members of the team to compete at Battersea Park
§ providing their team with a uniform T-shirt or some other distinguishing garment, preferably bearing the name of the town (eg as used in London Youth Games etc)
§ sending the names and ages of the members of their teams to the World Cup Development Team by Wednesday 27 April
§ transporting the team to and from Battersea Park on 2 May
The British Orienteering Federation Regional Development Officer may be able to support and help organise your local festival; details from http://www.britishorienteering.org.uk or ring 01629 734042.
There will be an entry fee of £1 per person (payable to BOWC2005 Ltd).
Start times will be approximately 12.30-2.00pm
Prizes for Young Orienteers Festival, Battersea Park
Individual prizes for the first three boys and girls in each of Primary, Lower Secondary and Upper Secondary.
Team prize for Primary and Secondary (Lower & Upper combined); team scores will be based on a team’s top two girls and top two boys in Primary and the top two girls and top two boys in each of Lower and Upper Secondary.
Overall team prize based on all competitors in the team.
For further information contact:
Karen Williams, World Cup Schools Development Officer or
Christine Robinson, World Cup Development Officer
If you want to contact either of these two then PM me for their addresses. Alternatively ask for more details on here.
Young Orienteers Festival
Bank Holiday Monday 2 May 2005
Battersea Park, South London
Young orienteers from around the country will be able to compete in this national festival, which will be held in conjunction with the World Cup Sprint Final. Young people will be able to rub shoulders with the world’s top orienteers, cheer on the GB team in what promises to be the most spectacular and spectator-friendly orienteering event ever held in the UK - and then take part in their own competition festival.
Local Young Orienteers Festivals
will be held in April around the country in which all young people can take part. The best from each Local YO Festival will be selected to represent their town/borough at the Young Orienteers Festival on 2 May.
Clubs, Local Authority Sports Development Units, or youth organisations are encouraged to hold their own Local YO Festival and send a team to the inter-town festival on 2 May.
Local Young Orienteers Festivals currently planned are:
14 Apr Kingston
19 Apr Aldershot
20 Apr Fleet
21 Apr Woking
21 Apr Guildford
22 Apr Surrey Heath, Frimley Lodge Park
25 Apr Merton, Wimbledon Park
? Barrow, Bexley, Bristol, Cambridge, Essex, Leicester, Milton Keynes, Mole Valley, Nottingham, Oxford, Swindon, Watford
A suggested timetable for the Local YOFs
(this is here as some people have asked for guidance; it is up to you how you run the Local YOFs)
10-12am Primary (Years 5&6) - equivalent to White standard
1-2pm Lower Secondary (Years 7&8) - equivalent to Yellow standard
2-3pm Upper Secondary (Years 9, 10 & 11) - equivalent to Orange standard
Schools can send any number of competitors to the Local YOFs.
Young Orienteers Festival, Battersea Park, 2 May 2005
From each Local YOF, up to 24 competitors may be selected to represent the town/borough at the Young Orienteers Festival at Battersea Park on 2 May:
§ Primary (Years 5&6) 4 boys and 4 girls - equivalent to White standard
§ Lower Secondary (Years 7&8) 4 boys and 4 girls - equivalent to Yellow standard
§ Upper Secondary (Years 9,10 & 11) 4 boys and 4 girls - equivalent to Orange standard
The local council, club or youth organisation will be responsible for:
§ organising and planning their own Local YOF
§ sending results to the World Cup Development Team to go on the World Cup website
§ selecting up to 24 members of the team to compete at Battersea Park
§ providing their team with a uniform T-shirt or some other distinguishing garment, preferably bearing the name of the town (eg as used in London Youth Games etc)
§ sending the names and ages of the members of their teams to the World Cup Development Team by Wednesday 27 April
§ transporting the team to and from Battersea Park on 2 May
The British Orienteering Federation Regional Development Officer may be able to support and help organise your local festival; details from http://www.britishorienteering.org.uk or ring 01629 734042.
There will be an entry fee of £1 per person (payable to BOWC2005 Ltd).
Start times will be approximately 12.30-2.00pm
Prizes for Young Orienteers Festival, Battersea Park
Individual prizes for the first three boys and girls in each of Primary, Lower Secondary and Upper Secondary.
Team prize for Primary and Secondary (Lower & Upper combined); team scores will be based on a team’s top two girls and top two boys in Primary and the top two girls and top two boys in each of Lower and Upper Secondary.
Overall team prize based on all competitors in the team.
For further information contact:
Karen Williams, World Cup Schools Development Officer or
Christine Robinson, World Cup Development Officer
If you want to contact either of these two then PM me for their addresses. Alternatively ask for more details on here.
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I note unsurprisingly the fixed festivals are in the South East and great if it brings kids into O in the South East, but for other areas the are all manner of considerations.
1 Info was much too late for inclusion in school/ district plans
2 In primary early May is difficult as it is immediately pre SATS and time out is not very popular, and in some years at Secondary you are looking at SATS GCSE and A levels prep
3 Ever tried getting schools to travel much further than out of there county. Costs ugh, for most the SE also means overnight Accomodation. More costs.
I hope it is great for the SE but even if the publicity had been 18-24 mnths before the event so it could be fitted into the plans I think the other factors would have restricted the take up.
Best wishes to the SE on this put any idea of it being National I think was far fetched, it's hard enough in the W Mids to get schools to the W Mids champs in May, so to a one off event in the SE!!!!
Hocolite
1 Info was much too late for inclusion in school/ district plans
2 In primary early May is difficult as it is immediately pre SATS and time out is not very popular, and in some years at Secondary you are looking at SATS GCSE and A levels prep
3 Ever tried getting schools to travel much further than out of there county. Costs ugh, for most the SE also means overnight Accomodation. More costs.
I hope it is great for the SE but even if the publicity had been 18-24 mnths before the event so it could be fitted into the plans I think the other factors would have restricted the take up.
Best wishes to the SE on this put any idea of it being National I think was far fetched, it's hard enough in the W Mids to get schools to the W Mids champs in May, so to a one off event in the SE!!!!
Hocolite
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Without wishing to sound negative - I must say that I have been surprised on a number of occasions by the lateness of announcements pertaining to the entire worldcup/surrey event. When i considered them in parallel with the JK preparations. the invitation for compuing tenders - that video announcement last week and obviously this event which seems to have completely by-passed our club (I cannot recall it even being mentioned at committee) no doubt there are valid reasons.
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To be honest, this all came about once the re-jig was forced upon the World Cup Committee so it's bound to be last minute. I'm only just doing the Oxford preparation now and there's still plenty of time to get a team organised. If this was advertised to only five or six teams in your area I'm sure you'd get one willing to take you up.
Not sure what you mean by "fixed" festivals - they're only fixed because people have volunteered to do them then and already decided on a date.
These excuses are pretty lame guys. Let's make a big drive and get some more teams in!
Not sure what you mean by "fixed" festivals - they're only fixed because people have volunteered to do them then and already decided on a date.
These excuses are pretty lame guys. Let's make a big drive and get some more teams in!
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Becks
This is experience even with a school I was working in. It's not a lame excuse, I wish it was. I'm not a teacher but have tried at various levels to get things off the ground and the response is -ve. Believe you I struggled to get a 'winning team' to BSOA score because of the costs of getting a mini bus then getting a teacher to drive it, on a Saturday. Imagine a bank holiday. I'm talking state sector not private.
Hocolite
This is experience even with a school I was working in. It's not a lame excuse, I wish it was. I'm not a teacher but have tried at various levels to get things off the ground and the response is -ve. Believe you I struggled to get a 'winning team' to BSOA score because of the costs of getting a mini bus then getting a teacher to drive it, on a Saturday. Imagine a bank holiday. I'm talking state sector not private.
Hocolite
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I think clubs could put teams in but it would be against the spirit of the thing - the secondary school courses only go up to orange standard so it'd be a bit unfair to send a team of established M/W16s along. And to be honest, they're probably want to run in the Surrey Five-O sprint instead - more exciting!
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The fixed ones are that because you know the dates. i'm sure the other ones will have been "fixed" with schools and districts too. The Nottinghamshire Youth Games which includes orienteering is planned ages in advance. It grew from the Rushcliffe Schools Champs which I organised in 1997. But if anyone is wanting to organise regional rounds the planning will have to start now. I remember back then, even for such a small competition, I had to have meetings with a local sports development officer and he contacted schools and what seemed simple was all very complicated and official. Schools plan stuff so far in advance that to get them to take part they'll need a lot of advance notice. Its probably still do-able but this initiative was always planned to be concentrated around the SE rather than a large scale national project like the one in Switzerland which coincided with their WOC. It' good even some districts across the country are involved. The schools competition will probably get more media coverage than the World Cups themselves and will add to any coverage of it. More importantly, a lot of the kids will experience orienteering for the first time.
In response to Guest it's not supposed to be about established orienteers, or even about COMPETING it's about giving a lot of kids an experience of orienteering and raising their awareness of the sport as a proper elite sport at the same time.
In response to Guest it's not supposed to be about established orienteers, or even about COMPETING it's about giving a lot of kids an experience of orienteering and raising their awareness of the sport as a proper elite sport at the same time.
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Hit the nail on the head there my girl! I do have it easy as we already have a well established linked with the Council and University Sports Outreach scheme, which are giving us help and official back up which always helps. I do still think there's time though - even one school at an event would be enough to send a team!
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Mrs H said
Mrs H - you do sound negative! From my experience so far, compared to running a complete World Cup round, organising a JK is a piece of cake - which is not to say that the JK is to be taken lightly (far from it!).
I guess that six months before the event, the JK organisers knew which days the competition was on, what events to put on and which areas would be used. Was this true for WCup 2005? Not a bit of it as the IOF changed the event in a radical way last Autumn and, since we are putting on the event on behalf of the IOF, we have to dance to their tune.
Given this, and some incredibly protracted discussions over access to some areas, we have made astoundingly successful progress. 23 teams have now entered the World Cup and the numbers entering the Surrey Five-O are building up too.
I believe that this event is the most ambitious ever staged in England - there is little or no precedent to follow for example - and it is no wonder that we cannot always make announcements a year in advance.
We need all the support we can get at the moment, so please don't knock the event - it doesn't deserve it - and be the next to support it by entering the Five-O races (preferably online at http://www.fabian4.co.uk/)
David
Without wishing to sound negative - I must say that I have been surprised on a number of occasions by the lateness of announcements pertaining to the entire worldcup/surrey event.
Mrs H - you do sound negative! From my experience so far, compared to running a complete World Cup round, organising a JK is a piece of cake - which is not to say that the JK is to be taken lightly (far from it!).
I guess that six months before the event, the JK organisers knew which days the competition was on, what events to put on and which areas would be used. Was this true for WCup 2005? Not a bit of it as the IOF changed the event in a radical way last Autumn and, since we are putting on the event on behalf of the IOF, we have to dance to their tune.
Given this, and some incredibly protracted discussions over access to some areas, we have made astoundingly successful progress. 23 teams have now entered the World Cup and the numbers entering the Surrey Five-O are building up too.
I believe that this event is the most ambitious ever staged in England - there is little or no precedent to follow for example - and it is no wonder that we cannot always make announcements a year in advance.
We need all the support we can get at the moment, so please don't knock the event - it doesn't deserve it - and be the next to support it by entering the Five-O races (preferably online at http://www.fabian4.co.uk/)
David
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Your misrepresenting me David - i was merely expressing my surprise - not belittling your event. On the other handMrs H. wrote: no doubt there are valid reasons.
organising a JK is a piece of cake
a lot depends on how good a job you want to make of it I suspect.
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I think the issue here is with the Junior involvement in the WC05, which has nothing to do with the IOF "interference". I guess the Young Orienteers Festival has come about because someone thinks that the FCC finals is not representative enough juniors-wise.
However, If all the wranglings with the British Junior Champs etc had been sorted out quickly then this could have been planned much further in advance and we wouldn't be experiencing these problems.
I don't know who is to 'blame' for all this, but I guess the World Cup organisers will have been told by someone what to do, and that certainly wasn't the IOF...
However, If all the wranglings with the British Junior Champs etc had been sorted out quickly then this could have been planned much further in advance and we wouldn't be experiencing these problems.
I don't know who is to 'blame' for all this, but I guess the World Cup organisers will have been told by someone what to do, and that certainly wasn't the IOF...
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