Are we going to get not only a full list of finalists but also a list of gold standard competitors, cos it is not really possible to officiate without a full list then it is fair for all. I'm fairly certain that in qualifiers there were some breaches, but not worth contesting as not affect result but it should be clear for the final. Kids don't always know themselves if they have gold standard or not. Also what is onechampionship standard worth?
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Looking in the junior forum there is also some concern over the number of finalists and the availability of start times. I think walton chasers will have a lot on their plate to say the least. Even at yesterday's round they ran out of hire dibbers and one of our very newest and youngest competitiors was told rather rudely (I know because I was there) that he couldn't run - fortunately other members of the club - and other clubs - were a lot more helpful and in the end we were able to find an unused SI Card in our own ranks (Mr H. was about to give up his own SI Card and i bet he wished he had - having mispunched - although some say it was to avoid the total humiliation of being thrashed by Neville yet again) I must say I can't see why dibbers can't be re-used. I think walton chasers have been very brave to stage both the first round and the final - i hope they realise what there in for and I'm glad it's not us
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They also ran out of dibbers at the HH District Event last weekend. It seems that the results software database's unique identifier is the E-card, which makes sense in that the E-card number is the only definite piece of information the computer has when it is downloading.
However, i don't see why the unique identifier couldn't be an entry number or similar, in which case the download could bring up a (list of) name(s) associated with that E-card. If the card has been used more than once, the appropriate name is selected and then the existing results from that card won't be overwritten.
I think it might just be possible to re-use an E-card currently, but with difficulty - the problem here is in the software.
However, i don't see why the unique identifier couldn't be an entry number or similar, in which case the download could bring up a (list of) name(s) associated with that E-card. If the card has been used more than once, the appropriate name is selected and then the existing results from that card won't be overwritten.
I think it might just be possible to re-use an E-card currently, but with difficulty - the problem here is in the software.
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junior forum wrote:Start times are only from 10am-11.15am for YBF
Actually that's wrong. Details on WCH site and BOF site say:
Starts for non-YBT: 1000 - 1115. YBT only: 1130 - 1300
So if any parents want to run, they have to turn up early. I guess it gives those needing to travel further a bit of extra time.
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Mrs H. wrote:I've heard mike napier's system allows dibbers to be re-used
Indead it does. At a NOC district event the other week two people ran on the same SI Card. I don't think that it's suggested but can be sorted if necessary.
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Blanka wrote: Details on WCH site and BOF site say:
Starts for non-YBT: 1000 - 1115. YBT only: 1130 - 1300
Groan, some juniors like a little parental support on the start line - which is going to mean old'uns not getting a run i can see. why is this necessary? - surely it would be better for the competition if the YBT runners were broken up with non-YBT people instead of just following each other round. what happens in the 15 minute gap in the middle? It's just going to turn the whole thing into a very long day isn't it?
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Mrs H. wrote:I've heard mike napier's system allows dibbers to be re-used
So does the hack I wrote for WCH but they couldn't use it because the YBT software (as I understand it) has to talk to the SI Manager database. I suspect this would be the same problem with Mike's software too. I know they have the same problem at compass sport cup/trophy too.
I'm sure the powers at WCH will be borrowing in sufficient dibbers for the final to get around the software problem.
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Mrs H. wrote:Blanka wrote: Details on WCH site and BOF site say:
Starts for non-YBT: 1000 - 1115. YBT only: 1130 - 1300
Groan, some juniors like a little parental support on the start line - which is going to mean old'uns not getting a run i can see. why is this necessary?
I thought this was a junior comeptition??? So it's for juniors and who gives a t**s is the grown ups don't get to play for once! That's one of the big problems in British Orienteering at present.... "I must get my run in however it affects anyone else"
Organise the competition for the juniors and let the adults fit round them..... a long day? So what:)
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Could be interesting with the 4 min gap per club competitor. If starts are pre allocated. Managers would put their strongest runners last to get any benefit from elephant tracks, so you'll get all the 'elite' running together with one minute intevals.Some good tows to be had I bet. With random adults in between this might be broken up a bit. Mind you clubs can ste their juniors up with an adult to tow!!!!
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gross2004 wrote:I thought this was a junior comeptition???
Well you can piss off Gross 'cos you're wrong. the BOF fixture list says its the Yvette Baker Trophy and District Event.
and as we will have all no doubt trudged over to Sandringham a fortnight before for the British Schools (junior competition only) I think we are entitled to a run on this occasion as that is exactly what it says is on offer.
Guest - i think it would be OK because as you say - the adults would be random - the kids are pre-entered - no-one would know which adults would end up where (or if they were good enough to be worth following) Because - lets face it - the adults are going to be on green upwards and green is the top YB course - the top kids on that are going to leave green adults standing . (and i seem to recall in the past a separate green course for YB entrants.)
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Mrs H. wrote:and as we will have all no doubt trudged over to Sandringham a fortnight before for the British Schools (junior competition only) I think we are entitled to a run on this occasion as that is exactly what it says is on offer.
RAFO are putting on a C4 especially for the adults who can't run at BSOC.
EA Fixtures wrote:RAFO British Schools Orienteering Championship Warm Up Event. Shouldham Warren, Kings Lynn. TF/680104.
C4 Mick Sillet, 01526 343 358. mick.sillet@ntlworld.com Fees TBA. EPS-SI. String course. Dogs on leads. http://www.rafo.org.uk/
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Mrs H. wrote:gross2004 wrote:I thought this was a junior comeptition???
Well you can piss off Gross 'cos you're wrong.
Rather harsh on Gross for a simple spelling mistake.
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