BOC Weekend
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Re: BOC Weekend
Has anyone else not received the usual Thursday morning email from BOF about ranking points? I haven't received one for BOC, nor for a previous event the week before
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Re: BOC Weekend
When are scores going to start disappearing? Some people have counting scores from 2019 still!
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gg wrote:Yes. Why not? Personally, I've always found it strange, both in orienteering and XC that women are apparently judged not to be able to run as far as men.
If only there were a way to tell the Orienteering World what you thought about this matter...
https://orienteering.sport/gender-equal ... -your-say/
(Last day to complete today).
Though it doesn't give you the option of advocating equal length courses...
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Re: BOC Weekend
From BOF in July 2021:
Currently, your total Ranking points are your best six Ranking scores since 15 March 2019 which was 12 months before Covid hit. By 15th July 2021, that will be a period of 28 months including 16 months (15th March 2020 to 15th July 2021) when COVID restrictions severely restricted the number and type of events that could be held.
From 15 July 2021, the system will bring forward the start date of the period on a day by day basis. On 15 July 2022, we expect to have had a full year of near normal competitions, and on that date the start date will change directly from 15 March 2020 to 15 July 2021 so that it is once again 12 months.
Currently, your total Ranking points are your best six Ranking scores since 15 March 2019 which was 12 months before Covid hit. By 15th July 2021, that will be a period of 28 months including 16 months (15th March 2020 to 15th July 2021) when COVID restrictions severely restricted the number and type of events that could be held.
From 15 July 2021, the system will bring forward the start date of the period on a day by day basis. On 15 July 2022, we expect to have had a full year of near normal competitions, and on that date the start date will change directly from 15 March 2020 to 15 July 2021 so that it is once again 12 months.
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Re: BOC Weekend
Guarantee it would be spectacularly unpopular.
With who the ~10% of British Orienteering Members who turn up at the championship or the ones who don't come because the current format doesn't offer them anything or the many other orienteers who never become BOF members because one of the reasons for doing so would be to take part in top level competitions which don't currently appeal?
I doubt it's a major revenue stream for BOF. Anyone got actual numbers?good idea, but wont catch on. The BOC is about £££. Its probably one of BOF's main income,
and you'll need to reduce the price to say £12-15 per entry for them courses.
Why? Has anyone ever actually tested the price elasticity of orienteering events? Compared to cycle sportifs, a typical half marathon, and even small music festivals etc - we are a pretty cheap way to spend a day. [Great North Run - £59, EMF £40+, Etape £45-80, GoSwim5K £45-50]
Realistically 80% of the people entering the BOC must be doing so with no expectation of winning, or likely even getting on the podium. Why would they only be willing to pay less to run a different class where they might have more fun and maybe even be more competitive?
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graeme wrote:gg wrote:Yes. Why not? Personally, I've always found it strange, both in orienteering and XC that women are apparently judged not to be able to run as far as men.
If only there were a way to tell the Orienteering World what you thought about this matter...
https://orienteering.sport/gender-equal ... -your-say/
(Last day to complete today).
Though it doesn't give you the option of advocating equal length courses...
There is a comments box...
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Re: BOC Weekend
Atomic wrote:Realistically 80% of the people entering the BOC must be doing so with no expectation of winning, or likely even getting on the podium.
I'd say its more like 90%, but that doesn't mean they don't want run an age class course and try to beat their rivals at what should be one of the better tests of orienteering. But I agree some would rather run a shorter or easier course so why not colour-code them so they are consistent with other events.
Atomic wrote:Why would they only be willing to pay less to run a different class where they might have more fun and maybe even be more competitive?
Agreed. No reason in principle why they should be cheaper just because they aren't age class - its the same product. The only reason I can think you might want to offer lower fees would be to encourage locals to attend so if the infrastructure can cope with the numbers then perhaps charge less for TD3 courses and market them to local novice orienteers.
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Re: BOC Weekend
Atomic wrote:Guarantee it would be spectacularly unpopular.
With who the ~10% of British Orienteering Members who turn up at the championship or the ones who don't come because the current format doesn't offer them anything or the many other orienteers who never become BOF members because one of the reasons for doing so would be to take part in top level competitions which don't currently appeal?
I meant particularly the vocal minority of orienteers who seem to have strong opinons (yes, I'm being hypocritical right now) about things Being Done A Certain Way. There may be a convergence in the Venn Diagram with those most likely to go to a BOC/JK/etc but I couldn't possibly say.
As for orienteers who don't go to major championships, or even regional events outside the ones their club puts on, I doubt the course lengths is solely what is stopping them attending. Although it may indeed be a small part.
I saw a stat somewhere on something that shows the majority of orienteers will only actually orienteer at a local (club) level doing events that their club puts on. This suggests that actually, rather than worrying about BOC/BNOC/MD/BSOC/XSR etc, we should actually in the main be worrying more about local events and putting on as many as possible. And demystifying the sport - don't get me wrong, orienteering is by definition a technical sport and so is always going to have a lot of rules, but there are things that could be simplified - like course choice and the arguments I've seen on here about not "forcing" people to run certain courses because they happen to be in a league.
That, in my opinion, is more likely to encourage people to become BOF members than changing the structures of major events.
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Re: BOC Weekend
And the point I failed to make above to follow the train of thought through to the end....
Thus if you have a bigger pool of orienteers at local events, this will then increase the number doing regional events, and then on to major events.
Won't happen overnight.
But neither did the oft-cited ParkRun. When I did my first one of those back in December 2008, I think there was just the one PR outside of London... It was all still fields....
Thus if you have a bigger pool of orienteers at local events, this will then increase the number doing regional events, and then on to major events.
Won't happen overnight.
But neither did the oft-cited ParkRun. When I did my first one of those back in December 2008, I think there was just the one PR outside of London... It was all still fields....
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