Thanks to S6D for providing an update on plans for the event on the SOA website.
The requirement for the hosting Council areas to be at Level 0 of Covid restrictions by August looks to be fraught with risk for the organisers. At least the Govt confirmed yesterday that Highland and Argyll and Bute are moving down to Level 1 as planned, unlike delays for other areas.
Let’s hope that Boris sticks with his easing of restrictions in England on 21 June. Any delay by Boris is most likely to lead to Nicola being even more cautious on opening up.
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Note that even Level 0 would still mean some restrictions - which (not being from Scotland) I hadn't realised until last night.
Hence the various event restrictions that the organisers have had to put in place.Scottish government website wrote:At Level 0:
you can meet socially in groups:
of up to 8 people from 4 households in your home or theirs – and can stay overnight
of up to 10 people from 4 households in an indoor public place like a café, pub or restaurant
of up to 15 people from 15 households outdoors
under 12s do not count towards the total number of people or households meeting outside but count towards the household numbers indoors
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Snail wrote:Hence the various event restrictions that the organisers have had to put in place
And a whole load of covid protocols that you don't see or hear about that have impacted on the forest.
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So the PM is to announce a delay in easing England restrictions today and tomorrow the FM is due to update on the plan to move Scotland to Level O on June 28.
Meanwhile we orienteers have just staged 3 successful major events (British Middle, Northern and Scottish Champs) where my overriding memory, apart from the quality Orienteering, has been the enjoyment evident from orienteers meeting up after too long away from the forest.
So if there is a delay to moving to Level 0, is that the end of this years S6D?
Personally I don’t see any real difference between an O event of 500 and 2000 as regards the risk to a largely vaccinated population.
Meanwhile we orienteers have just staged 3 successful major events (British Middle, Northern and Scottish Champs) where my overriding memory, apart from the quality Orienteering, has been the enjoyment evident from orienteers meeting up after too long away from the forest.
So if there is a delay to moving to Level 0, is that the end of this years S6D?
Personally I don’t see any real difference between an O event of 500 and 2000 as regards the risk to a largely vaccinated population.
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RoT wrote:So the PM is to announce a delay in easing England restrictions today and tomorrow the FM is due to update on the plan to move Scotland to Level O on June 28.
Meanwhile we orienteers have just staged 3 successful major events (British Middle, Northern and Scottish Champs) where my overriding memory, apart from the quality Orienteering, has been the enjoyment evident from orienteers meeting up after too long away from the forest.
So if there is a delay to moving to Level 0, is that the end of this years S6D?
Personally I don’t see any real difference between an O event of 500 and 2000 as regards the risk to a largely vaccinated population.
Especially when 12000 fans are allowed to travel from all over Scotland and beyond to watch a football match. But consistency has never been a valued trait of government.
Unfortunately it is hard to see how the S6D can happen now.
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Incredibly frustrating for us as Organisers. We tried to argue a special case for orienteering (through sportscotland to the Scottish Government) but we are obviously second rate compared to football fans
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S6D - 2158 entries
British Middles - 1191 entries
Northern Champs - 1549 entries
I assume that the 2158 is the total number of entries over each day (combined), so that would be a minimum of 359 people attending (2158/6). However, each person will no doubt bring a +1, or even be travelling as a family (of Orienteers).
I think your looking somewhere between 500-600 people attending the event, which is far far less than the BMOC / Northern Champs.
How do you win over a council?
British Middles - 1191 entries
Northern Champs - 1549 entries
I assume that the 2158 is the total number of entries over each day (combined), so that would be a minimum of 359 people attending (2158/6). However, each person will no doubt bring a +1, or even be travelling as a family (of Orienteers).
I think your looking somewhere between 500-600 people attending the event, which is far far less than the BMOC / Northern Champs.
How do you win over a council?
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Freefall wrote:Incredibly frustrating for us as Organisers. We tried to argue a special case for orienteering (through sportscotland to the Scottish Government) but we are obviously second rate compared to football fans
Especially as a good number of the entrants will still travel up regardless and probably be even more widely in contact with the locals.
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Especially as a good number of the entrants will still travel up regardless and probably be even more widely in contact with the locals.[/quote]
Most orienteers I’ve spoken to from all parts of the U.K. have paid for accommodation and are visiting Lochaber anyway. That’s good news for the hard pressed hospitality sector, but very frustrating for orienteers and organisers noting the ridiculous inconsistencies in government policy.
Most orienteers I’ve spoken to from all parts of the U.K. have paid for accommodation and are visiting Lochaber anyway. That’s good news for the hard pressed hospitality sector, but very frustrating for orienteers and organisers noting the ridiculous inconsistencies in government policy.
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Yes, how absurd that the government of Scotland is concentrating on protecting the population from the pandemic when THE most important issue for Scotland should obviosly be facilitating a holiday event for a small minoirity sport.
Get a sense of proportion folks.
Get a sense of proportion folks.
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I am used to your trolling Pete but explain to me why 12,000 fans are allowed into Hampden to watch football - how is that protecting the population?
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There is a way that S6D can go ahead within the scottish government rules, with the support of the entered Orienteering community.
As I understand it:
-S6D has a requirement of 2000 competitors to break even.
-Level 0 is required in Highland and Argyll&Bute by August as this allows unlimited participants at outdoors events/competitions
-S6D have to make a Go/NoGo decision by the end of June
-Highland and Argyll&Bute are currently in Level 1, which allows 1000 participants at outdoor events/competitions.
My proposal is make a decision to go ahead with 1000 competitors per day, in effect you can run 3/6 days. This is permissible under the current rules. If it turns out that Level 0 is achieved by August then the event can go ahead as originally planned.
Whether your 3/6 days are decided on a first come first served basis or are allocated by the organisers is up for debate. Of course this relies on competitors being prepared to give S6D the full entry for only 3 days, which I’m happy to do on the basis that 3 days is better than none.
I commend this proposal to S6D and the Orienteering community
As I understand it:
-S6D has a requirement of 2000 competitors to break even.
-Level 0 is required in Highland and Argyll&Bute by August as this allows unlimited participants at outdoors events/competitions
-S6D have to make a Go/NoGo decision by the end of June
-Highland and Argyll&Bute are currently in Level 1, which allows 1000 participants at outdoor events/competitions.
My proposal is make a decision to go ahead with 1000 competitors per day, in effect you can run 3/6 days. This is permissible under the current rules. If it turns out that Level 0 is achieved by August then the event can go ahead as originally planned.
Whether your 3/6 days are decided on a first come first served basis or are allocated by the organisers is up for debate. Of course this relies on competitors being prepared to give S6D the full entry for only 3 days, which I’m happy to do on the basis that 3 days is better than none.
I commend this proposal to S6D and the Orienteering community
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RoT wrote:My proposal is make a decision to go ahead with 1000 competitors per day, in effect you can run 3/6 days.
Great idea!
If the entries are a little over the 2000 mark then I'm sure we could get some volunteers to take just 2 days to make it work. Its particularly important that juniors get to run after missing out on so much in the past year.
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I too would happily go along with RoT's idea.
My family will be travelling to Lochaber on holiday that week, whether or not the S6D is going ahead. 3 days of O would be better than 0.
My family will be travelling to Lochaber on holiday that week, whether or not the S6D is going ahead. 3 days of O would be better than 0.
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RoT wrote:There is a way that S6D can go ahead within the scottish government rules, with the support of the entered Orienteering community.
As I understand it:
-S6D has a requirement of 2000 competitors to break even.
-Level 0 is required in Highland and Argyll&Bute by August as this allows unlimited participants at outdoors events/competitions
-S6D have to make a Go/NoGo decision by the end of June
-Highland and Argyll&Bute are currently in Level 1, which allows 1000 participants at outdoor events/competitions.
My proposal is make a decision to go ahead with 1000 competitors per day, in effect you can run 3/6 days. This is permissible under the current rules. If it turns out that Level 0 is achieved by August then the event can go ahead as originally planned.
Whether your 3/6 days are decided on a first come first served basis or are allocated by the organisers is up for debate. Of course this relies on competitors being prepared to give S6D the full entry for only 3 days, which I’m happy to do on the basis that 3 days is better than none.
I commend this proposal to S6D and the Orienteering community
I’d been thinking along the same lines so good idea.
I would have no problem with a random allocation of days.
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