Presumably you could also split the event into two 3 day events with a maximum limit of 1000, but with increased entry fees to make each event viable. Competitors would then need to state their preference as to whether they want the first 3 day event, or the second 3 day event. Some will prefer to cancel leaving the option for some lucky people to enter both 3 day events, paying again, and possibly paying more for a 'late entry' to help cover the fixed costs.
On current trends it would seem unlikely for the S6D to be in a 'level 0' area at the start of August.
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Of course the other solution is for Sport Scotland to change the rules to allow 3000 participants at outdoor events/competitions in a Level 1 area. Seems entirely logical to me, given that we currently have 12,000 folks inside a football stadium and 3000 in a fan zone in a Level 2 area......!
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Freefall wrote:I am used to your trolling Pete but explain to me twhy 12,000 fans are allowed into Hampden to watch football - how is that protecting the population?
Oh dear this is the same tiresome:
"If people are allowed to do X then why am I not allowed to do Y"
Where X = something that is allowed and Y absolutuey anything which isn't
argument that we have heard over and over again from covid deniers from Michael O'Leary onwards over the last 18 months.
In this particular case, limiting the entry to a stadium to 25% capacity to ensure socially distant seating is actually rather more restricitive than overall event numbers limit is for the S6D.
Also, I think you will find there is a smidgen less interest in orienteering among the population of Scotland than there is in the other miniority sport you mentionned. Heck, I would imagine that even if you surveyed Scottish members of this forum you would probably find more who could tell you the result of the football match that took part in England yesterday than could name the winner of the Scottish Orienteering Championship the same day.
I do understand how frustrating this is. I have courses planned ready to set up for the British sprint relay champs this summer that have already been postponed from last year. The event is dependent on restrictions being lifted in England and I really really hope that conditions in four weeks time (or whatever Boris anounces) will allow that to happen. But if the delta varient is still speading exponentially at that time, whether we can all go running round Skelmersdale will be the least of the governments concerns.
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Virus levels currently 34.9 per 100,000 in Argyll & Bute and 12.3 in Highland.
Because there aren't any major population centres in Highland, and it's big with lots of space to spread out, there hasn't really been a big instance of virus there. Argyll and Bute did have a spike in January, but that was linked to a fish processing factory, and was contained quickly.
So long as you wash your hands and don't blow your nose on your map, it should be okay.
Because there aren't any major population centres in Highland, and it's big with lots of space to spread out, there hasn't really been a big instance of virus there. Argyll and Bute did have a spike in January, but that was linked to a fish processing factory, and was contained quickly.
So long as you wash your hands and don't blow your nose on your map, it should be okay.
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buzz wrote:RoT wrote:My proposal is make a decision to go ahead with 1000 competitors per day, in effect you can run 3/6 days.
Great idea!
If the entries are a little over the 2000 mark then I'm sure we could get some volunteers to take just 2 days to make it work. Its particularly important that juniors get to run after missing out on so much in the past year.
Agree re juniors. If S6D is cancelled then many youngsters will understandably see it is adults taking away their youth, just as they got to see their friends again at some great recent events (sprint selection, British Middle, Northern in the Lakes and Scottish Champs). We know there is a large dropout rate of older juniors from the sport and I fear that continuing Covid restrictions on events will seriously exacerbate this trend.
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I think a S3D is a very acceptable solution. You have my vote.
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A poll of the IOW entrant also supports a 3 day event. Presumably there will a shorter start period also.
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pete.owens wrote: "If people are allowed to do X then why am I not allowed to do Y" Where X = something that is allowed and Y absolutuey anything which isn't
argument that we have heard over and over again from covid deniers from Michael O'Leary onwards over the last 18 months......
..... But if the delta varient is still speading exponentially at that time, whether we can all go running round Skelmersdale will be the least of the governments concerns.
Pete - these are inflammatory political statements which in my opinion have no place on this forum. I'd be more than happy to challenge your last statement offline although I hope that just because we disagree you won't stoop to calling me a 'covid denier'. PM me if you want to chat.
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pete.owens wrote:Yes, how absurd that the government of Scotland is concentrating on protecting the population from the pandemic when THE most important issue for Scotland should obviosly be facilitating a holiday event for a small minoirity sport.
Get a sense of proportion folks.
Yet another negative post on this subject. What chance have we got of pursuding authorites that the risks of orienteering and then catching covid are minimal when some orienteers consider it too risky!
At least others are coming up with alternative solutions to try and make the S6D work.
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buzz wrote:pete.owens wrote: "If people are allowed to do X then why am I not allowed to do Y" Where X = something that is allowed and Y absolutuey anything which isn't
argument that we have heard over and over again from covid deniers from Michael O'Leary onwards over the last 18 months......
..... But if the delta varient is still speading exponentially at that time, whether we can all go running round Skelmersdale will be the least of the governments concerns.
Pete - these are inflammatory political statements which in my opinion have no place on this forum. I'd be more than happy to challenge your last statement offline although I hope that just because we disagree you won't stoop to calling me a 'covid denier'. PM me if you want to chat.
Well said.
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I have no intention of attending a football match in either London or Glasgow (or anywhere else), but even if 25,000 / 12,000 / 3,000 on Glasgow Green can be achieved with social distancing, how do they manage that on entrance, exit and at the loos ?
Some of the pictures I saw of Wembley spectators had lots rather close together.
.., and did the overseas participants at a little gig in Cornwall this last weekend all self-isolate for 10 days after entering the UK ?
Seems like dual standards to me.
Some of the pictures I saw of Wembley spectators had lots rather close together.
.., and did the overseas participants at a little gig in Cornwall this last weekend all self-isolate for 10 days after entering the UK ?
Seems like dual standards to me.
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SeanC wrote:Presumably you could also split the event into two 3 day events with a maximum limit of 1000, but with increased entry fees to make each event viable.
You could. I'm sure nobody on here would complain at paying twice as much...
Or, you could leave the controls out for the week, and allocate 350 people per day, per area. Or anything in between. Or just stick the courses on maprun and let people follow the outdoor access code...
https://www.outdooraccess-scotland.scot ... 20Code.pdf
On current trends it would seem unlikely for the S6D to be in a 'level 0' area at the start of August.
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Could each day be run over two days, as two separate events? With two smaller events each day at different locations and changing it to 12 events of half the size. Or two events on the same area on the same day, making use of the evening light.
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maprun wrote:... Or two events on the same area on the same day, making use of the evening light.
That seems like a good idea. AM starts say 9:00-11:00, closing at 13:00. PM 14:00-16:00 closing at 18:00. Could swap between AM and PM on the rest day.
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I did a XC bike race series this Spring, that asked the morning racers to leave the carpark by a set time, with the afternoon ones instructed to arrive after a set time. In practice there was a small overlap between the laggards and early birds, though both were far too preoccupied to consider socialising.Snail wrote:maprun wrote:... Or two events on the same area on the same day, making use of the evening light.
That seems like a good idea. AM starts say 9:00-11:00, closing at 13:00. PM 14:00-16:00 closing at 18:00. Could swap between AM and PM on the rest day.
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